Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26209 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 18:54:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 18:54:06 -0000 Received: (qmail 22030 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 18:56:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 18:56:50 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Jgas-0001qG-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:49:02 +0000 Received: from mail3.svr.pol.co.uk ([195.92.193.19]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Jgao-0001q6-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:48:58 +0000 Received: from modem-81.beryllium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.3.81] helo=default) by mail3.svr.pol.co.uk with smtp (Exim 3.13 #0) id 14Jgad-0002Em-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 18:48:47 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c08247$ad9fe500$5103883e@default> From: "MAL HAMILTON" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Caged Coils Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:53:06 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: -----Original Message----- From: Dave To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: 18 January 2001 18:30 Subject: Re: LF: Caged Coils >Mal, Rick etc. > >I am an amateur amateur, I experiment! > >I cage the coil, the ant current goes up by ten percent, therefore it's >better ( several exclamation marks would go here but I only have one >left...) >The reason it's better and not worse (by 0.000003dB) is, I surmise, that the >coil is no longer dissipating power into nearby lossy items. Hedge, fence, >grass etc. >Seems blindingly obvious to me really (more exclamation marks). >I can't put the coil in the middle of the lawn because my wife would get >fried when she hung out the washing (sorry about the gender-stereotyping >there.) >I reckon one could usefully cage the bottom few feet of one's vertical feed >wire if it was surrounded by bushes....... Don't say "cage the whole thing" >please! (Oh, there goes the last one..) I will say it !!!!!!!!!!!!! CAGE THE WHOLE ANTENNA. You may as well and get a few more amps. By accident you have invented the LF microwave oven with wire attached. Some one did mention recently that since you caged your coil you signal was weaker. Your xyl should not be in the garden and if she does stray put the coil up above her head and cage the bottom thin wire with plastic fencing. Read Rogers (boffin) message about positioning the coil upright at the base of the vertical for maximum efficiency and putting a metal plate underneath the coil. I must try that plate suggestion myself. Mal/G3KEV > >Dave 'YXM > >> Shielding the coil (done properly - avoiding short circuit turns) would >> make my signal 0.000003dB weaker. >> >> 73, Rik ON7YD >> >> > > >