Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10743 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 18:35:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by extortion.plus.net with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 18:35:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 11945 invoked from network); 31 Jan 2001 18:38:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 31 Jan 2001 18:38:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14O21n-00068K-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:30:47 +0000 Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] helo=zetnet.co.uk ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14O21m-00068F-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:30:46 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer (man-203.dialup.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.43.3]) by zetnet.co.uk (8.11.2/8.11.2/Debian 8.11.2-1) with SMTP id f0VIUUS15630 for ; Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:30:31 GMT Message-ID: <000201c08bb4$649a93c0$032bf7c2@oemcomputer> From: "John Rabson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010131074711.00a3d680@mail.pncl.co.uk><5.0.2.1.2.20010131074711.00a3d680@mail.pncl.co.uk> <3.0.6.32.20010131162350.0082a100@pop.saunalahti.fi> Subject: Re: LF: CW etc Date: Wed, 31 Jan 2001 18:25:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by zetnet.co.uk id f0VIUUS15630 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: ICW orginally was CW interrupted at AF with an interrupter wheel. See p. 129 of 'Radio Engineering' ed. Roy C Norris, pub. Odhams Press ----- Original Message ----- From: Väinö Lehtoranta To: Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2001 2:23 PM Subject: Re: LF: CW etc > Hello all, > > Look for example "MIL-STD-188-140A" Appendix A > ............ > 20.2.1 Interrupted continuous wave (ICW) > > ICW or on-off keying (usually associated with > international Morse Code) can be used with > VLF and LF systems, but is presently used only > as a back-up. In the case of fixed shore base > installations, ICW data rates are severely > limited by the time constant of the antenna > circuit......etc > > 20.2.2. Continuous wave frequency shift keying (CWFSK) > > ----------------- > 73 de Vaino > > > > > > > At 11:48 31.1.2001 +0000, you wrote: > >In message <5.0.2.1.2.20010131074711.00a3d680@mail.pncl.co.uk>, Walter > >Blanchard writes > >>For some reason this didn't seem to make it onto the reflector first time > >>round so here goes again: > >> > >snip > > > >>"CW" - "continuous wave" - means just that; a steady unbroken unmodulated > >>carrier wave; "N0N" (or "A0" in old money). Morse code is mainly sent by > >>interrupting the carrier so how can it possibly be "CW"? > > > >The old spark transmitters, produced damped wavetrains which carried > >their own modulation (rough). When the arc system was produced which > >gave a continuous waveform these were designated 'CW'. They required a > >beat oscillator to hear them and even though they were interrupted by > >the keying the nomenclature stuck. > > > >Mike > >> Only amateurs > >>consider "Morse" and "CW" to be synonymous which is a pity because it > >>clouds our thinking. > > > >Commercial and armed forces transmitters have the Morse position > >labelled 'CW' on the switch. > > > >Mike > >-- > >M.J.Powell > > > > > |---------------------------------------------------------| > | V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX ¤ 60N33.6 024E58.7 KP20LN74 | > | P.O.Box 50 ¤ Telephone: +358-9-4173965 | > | FIN-05401, Jokela ¤ Telefax: +358-9-4173961 | > | Finland ¤ email: vaiski@dlc.fi | > |---------------------------------------------------------| > >