Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16645 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2001 11:55:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 1 Jan 2001 11:55:11 -0000 Received: (qmail 28822 invoked from network); 1 Jan 2001 11:58:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 1 Jan 2001 11:58:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14D3W2-00062b-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 11:52:38 +0000 Received: from mta07-svc.ntlworld.com ([62.253.162.47]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14D3W1-00062W-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 01 Jan 2001 11:52:37 +0000 Received: from oemcomputer ([213.104.98.160]) by mta07-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with SMTP id <20010101115217.QDFS26323.mta07-svc.ntlworld.com@oemcomputer> for ; Mon, 1 Jan 2001 11:52:17 +0000 Message-ID: <000001c073e9$3bb0f180$a06268d5@oemcomputer> From: "mike.dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3A4E6ACF.F33E14D7@alg.demon.co.uk> Subject: LF: Re: QRM on 136.500 Date: Mon, 1 Jan 2001 11:48:04 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > The balloons here at GW4ALG are flying well and the local noise > level is dropping . . . > But a strong intermittent carrier is clobbering 136.5 kHz, the > most commonly-used frequency for normal CW operation. There is a worrying trend to use 136.5kHz for transatlantic transmissions. I understand that VE1ZZ is crystal controlled, so he can be forgiven. However, I have heard both QRSS and conventional CW transmissions from G stations on this frequency aiming to be heard in VE. Two problems are raised here: one is mentioned by Steve above, and the other is that co-channel operation is extremely inefficient for this type of marginal contact. It was not long ago that sub-bands were proposed for Eu-NA (low end of band) and NA-Eu (high end of band). I have the details of this on my web site and requests for comments produced no result so I assume they are still accepted. Is there now (1) a wish for a free-for-all, or (2) a wish for new sub-bands? I, for one, am very confused. Where should I transmit and receive now? Mike, G3XDV www.lf.thersgb.net