Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13845 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2000 17:34:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 26 Dec 2000 17:34:53 -0000 Received: (qmail 1108 invoked from network); 26 Dec 2000 17:38:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 26 Dec 2000 17:38:03 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14AxtP-0000rD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:28:07 +0000 Received: from ds-img-2.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.135] helo=spdmgaab.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14AxtN-0000r5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 17:28:06 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaab.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id MAA05370 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:27:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 12:27:12 -0500 From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" Subject: LF: Re: Re. VE1ZZ To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <200012261227_MC2-BFB5-9363@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Mal, G3KEV wrote: >So you are saying that 1W >erp from a dummy load radiates just as efficiently as 1W from a 200 ft >vertical for instance.< ... no, surely not! But 1000 Watt from a - 30 dB 'gain' Antenna (that's approximately the 'gain' my 59 ft backyard antenna provides) will produce exactly the same ERP (definition see below) as 1 Watt radiated from a full-size vertical dipole (about 1100m high, which might be difficult to build for most amateurs due to most local communities authoritie's strange attitude ...). Please see below the relevant definitions as they are recommended by the ITU. Best 73, a peaceful time 'between the years' as we say in Germany ... Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) --------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------- "DEFINITIONS OF RADIATION IN LF, MF AND HF BROADCASTING BANDS (1978-1982-1986) Rec. 561-2 The CCIR UNANIMOUSLY RECOMMENDS that the following terminology should be used to define and determine the radiation from sound-broadcasting transmitters: 1. Cymomotive force (c.m.f.) (in a given direction) The product formed by multiplying the electric field strength at a given point in space, due to a transmitting station, by the distance of the point from the antenna. This distance must be sufficient for the reactive components of the field to be negligible; moreover, the finite conductivity of the ground is supposed to have no effect on propagation. The cymomotive force (c.m.f.) is a vector; when necessary it may be expressed in terms of components along axes perpendicular to the direction of propagation. The c.m.f. is expressed in volts; it corresponds numerically to the field strength in mV/m at a distance of 1 km. 2. Effective monopole-radiated power (e.m.r.p.) (in a given direction) The product of the power supplied to the antenna and its gain relative to a short vertical antenna in the given direction. (Radio Regulations, No. 157.) Radio Regulations No. 154 (c) defines the gain of an antenna in a given direction relative to a short vertical antenna G v as the gain relative to a loss-free reference antenna consisting of a linear conductor, much shorter than one quarter of a wavelength, normal to the surface of a perfectly conducting plane which contains the given direction. The reference antenna, when fed with a power of 1 kW, is considered to radiate an e.m.r.p. of 1 kW in any direction in the perfectly conducting plane and produces a field strength of 300 mV/m at 1 km distance (equivalent to a c.m.f. of 300 V). An e.m.r.p. of 1 kW is assumed in the derivation of the ground-wave propagation curves of Recommen-dation 368. An e.m.r.p. of 1 kW at all angles of elevation is assumed in the presentation of the sky-wave curves of Recommendation 435. Note 1  Definitions 1 and 2 are mainly used in LF and MF broadcasting. 3. Equivalent isotropically radiated power (e.i.r.p.) The product of the power supplied to the antenna and the antenna gain G i in a given direction relative to an isotropic antenna (absolute or isotropic gain) (Radio Regulations, No. 155). The idealized reference antenna, when fed with a power of 1 kW, is considered to provide an e.i.r.p. of 1 kW in all directions and to produce a field strength of 173 mV/m at 1 km distance. 4. Effective radiated power (e.r.p.) (in a given direction) The product of the power supplied to the antenna and its gain relative to a half-wave dipole in a given direction (Radio Regulations, No. 156). Radio Regulations No. 154 (b) defines the gain of an antenna in a given direction relative to a half-wave dipole G d , as the gain relative to a loss-free reference antenna isolated in space whose equatorial plane contains the given direction. The reference antenna, when fed with a power of 1 kW, is considered to radiate an e.r.p. of 1 kW in any direction in the equatorial plane and produces a field strength of 222 mV/m at 1 km distance." --------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------------