Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10749 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2000 19:01:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 19 Dec 2000 19:01:02 -0000 Received: (qmail 24330 invoked from network); 19 Dec 2000 19:04:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 19 Dec 2000 19:04:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 148RvU-0001zX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:55:52 +0000 Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.4]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 148RvS-0001zP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 18:55:51 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from DL4YHF@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v28.35.) id l.11.d5dbfa2 (3849) for ; Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:55:04 -0500 (EST) From: DL4YHF@aol.com Message-ID: <11.d5dbfa2.27710908@aol.com> Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2000 13:55:04 EST Subject: LF: Re: PSK experiments, QSO between DK8KW and DF0WD To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 4.0.i for Windows 95 sub 69 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Geri, Rik, and others, Concerning the PSK31-signal generated from DF0WD: Oh yes, the signal must have been a little "broad" because the transverter which I used at DF0WD was a bit overdriven and so not really as 'linear' as it should have been. The absolute maximum output is about 100 Watts (with square waves at the drains), the output in PSK31 was much less, but still above the compression point of the transverter's PA. The bias current was quite low because usually I operate in CW. I was quite surprised to hear Geri's transmission to DL7YA, so I tried to call him (with success), though my rig was not properly set up. Furthermore, there was not even a PTT control from the computer to the radio, so I had to ask a "co-operator" to press the PTT of the IC706's microphone. Some letters of DF0WD's transmission have been missing because of the quite large delay-time of the 'human PTT switch' ! But things will improve. I am currently modifying the PSK TX algorithm (taken from WinPSK) so it can generate "phase ramps" instead of "amplitude shaping". This should reduce the bandwidth, even if the PA operates in non-linear mode as Klaus (DJ5HG) explained in an earlier posting to the group. Also thanks to Claudio (IK2PII) for his contribution. I have to think about using a four-quadrant multiplier, maybe this is another way to produce the slow phase shift. An I/Q multiplier is exactly what the 'original' amplitude-shaped BSK modulator uses. At the present time, I generate a kind of PSK with "soft" phase transitions using a simple sine function with a slowly moving "phase offset" to the argument, like y(t) = A * sin( F * t + phase), where 'A' is the output amplitude (constant !). 'F' is proportional to the frequency of the transmitted signal, 't' is the time (or the audio sample counter, which is equivalent) 'phase' generates the phase-shift modulation. Note that this is a rough simplification ! The trick is to find a proper function for the 'phase' to move between 0 and 180 degrees. But I don't want to bore you with details, because experiments are still going on. So thanks again to Geri for my first 2-way PSK QSO on LF and to Rik for the report and the comparison of both signals. Happy Christmas to all, and all the best for 2001, 73 from Wolf (DL4YHF, DF0WD)