Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5919 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2000 14:28:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 10 Dec 2000 14:28:42 -0000 Received: (qmail 6952 invoked from network); 10 Dec 2000 14:31:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 10 Dec 2000 14:31:32 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1457Q8-00020P-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:25:44 +0000 Received: from [206.100.10.38] (helo=cobalt4.source.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 1457Q6-00020K-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 14:25:42 +0000 Received: from parissn2 (AMontsouris-101-1-4-91.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.253.216.91]) by cobalt4.source.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id GAA18897 for ; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 06:25:33 -0800 Message-ID: <008401c062b5$322b8750$0700000a@parissn2> From: "Stewart Nelson" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000101c06290$17c25bc0$0ad8893e@default> Subject: LF: Re: amplifier design Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 15:26:31 +0100 Organization: SC Group MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Mal and all, While it would be great if we all had linear amplifiers, I believe that most modes of interest can be accommodated with a switching amp. Of course, CW, RTTY, and all forms of FM and FSK are fine. For PSK, you could simply feed the signal into your switching amp. If properly designed, it won't be damaged when the drive amplitude decays to zero and then comes up in the opposite phase. This will, however, generate some spurious signals. If they are unacceptable, you can generate a constant envelope signal that is PSK compatible. Suppose you want to send PSK at MS100. To produce a phase inversion, you shift frequency up (or down) by 50 Hz for 10 milliseconds. You then return to the original frequency for the remaining 90 ms. This signal can be received with normal PSK Rx gear, and will appear to be less than 1 dB weaker than true PSK (for the same PEP). But, since you can now drive the amp into hard saturation, you should come out ahead. Steve Olney's FDK is a very promising mode; it appears to be several dB better than QRSS; check out http://www.qsl.net/vk2zto/ExpModes/fdk.htm . But I believe that few have tried it because it needs a linear amp. When you send FDK, the level of each tone must be 6 dB below saturation. Instead, you could use a variant where the two tones are sent sequentially, rather than simultaneously. This costs a little in performance, because some equipment drift and change in the propagation path occurs during that time interval. But, for a given amp, you are launching twice as much energy into the air, which should more than make up the difference. And, a switching amp is now no problem. I am sure that new modes which are even more robust will be developed. But I believe that a constraint of constant envelope is not onerous, and will be the choice of most, if not all, designers. Just my opinion. 73, Stewart KK7KA ----- Original Message ----- From: "MAL HAMILTON" To: "rsgb" Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2000 10:59 AM Subject: LF: amplifier design > Hello All > > The method of using an HF frequency, dividing down then using high power > fets in class D or E then a LPF is not totally satisfactory and only permits > cw mode. > Keying this type of tx is also a problem as described in recent discussions > on the reflector plus the problems suppressing the odd harmonics 3/5/7 th > etc because of the square waves inherent in the design. Some of these > problems are being investigated and rectified but it still leaves a non > linear output and suitable only for cw or rtty. > This approach is used by most and was a quick fix to get most of us going > on 73 and 136 khz but maybe the time has come for a more traditional > approach like a linear transvertor used in conjunction with an HF > transceiver and a high power linear amplifier with appropriate bias > switching for class C for more efficiency on cw. > This would enable us to use any mode generated by the hf transceiver plus > any other mode generated by a computer ie psk 31 and other psk variations. > It also solves all the keying problems. > The disatvantage is of course that with a linear approach you only get 50% > efficiency compared with 90% with the switched mode system. > I am currently thinking of progressing along these lines and building > something suitable when time permits. > The recent discussion on this media about SUPER amplifiers is very > interesting and am awaiting the big thump from one of these on 73/136 soon. > de G3KEV