Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27310 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2000 19:15:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warrior-inbound.servers.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by 10.226.25.101 with SMTP; 6 Dec 2000 19:15:57 -0000 Received: (qmail 15615 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2000 19:18:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior with SMTP; 6 Dec 2000 19:18:38 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 143jtE-0006Js-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:06:04 +0000 Received: from email.cwcom.net ([195.44.0.104] helo=cwcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 143jtD-0006Jn-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 06 Dec 2000 19:06:03 +0000 Received: from computer ([195.44.203.78]) by cwcom.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:04:18 +0000 Message-ID: <000b01c05fba$3dbe2080$4ecb2cc3@computer> From: "Martin M5CIX" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <21206.200012061423@gemini> Subject: LF: Re: High Power, Antennas, Loading Coils and blowing ourselves up! Date: Wed, 6 Dec 2000 19:24:29 -0000 Organization: M5CIX / G8CIX MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Reading the current series of postings on power and Antennas with insulators catching fire makes it clear that we are talking about lethal power levels. What are the safety issues and how should we protect ourselves, kids and neighbours? Recent emails talk of direct rectification of mains and three phase supplies! Its all getting very hairy. Martin M5CIX > Another factor to be considered is the antenna voltage. With about > 6A antenna current, and 300pF capacitance, the antenna voltage > should be about 23kV. When I first started operating at this level of > power, I had problems with arcs forming on the antenna wire, > insulators catching fire, etc. Changing to a thicker antenna wire, > and fitting "corona rings" to the insulators, with the object of > reducing the potential gradient, seems to have solved the problem > for the time being. > > Operating with a higher power level still has it's attractions - at the > moment, to get something like 1W ERP, I have to resort to using a > hydraulic cherry picker to support my antenna at 16m high - but I > can only do this during the night, in order to preserve relations with > the neighbors. With the antenna at it's daytime height, I reckon 2- > 4kW would be required. But the antenna voltage would then be > between 30 and 50kV. 73kHz doesn't bear thinking about! > > So there is a dilemma - building a huge amplifier as Andy describes > would require a bigger antenna with a lower reactance to keep the > voltage to a sensible level, but having a bigger antenna would > means less power is required (lower loss and higher radiation > resistance). Trying to increase the size of my antenna is > problematic for the usual reasons, so I suppose I am near the limit > of what ERP is possible from my QTH, for the time being. > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU >