Return-Path: Received: (qmail 596 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 15:10:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 15:10:38 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12ybx4-0003NM-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:04:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.92]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12ybx3-0003NH-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:04:33 +0100 Received: from pickmere.demon.co.uk ([158.152.117.143]) by anchor-post-34.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12ybww-0008Gs-0Y for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 4 Jun 2000 16:04:29 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 4 Jun 2000 13:43:08 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "M.J.Powell" Subject: Re: LF: Re: Aerial tests. References: <4.2.0.58.20000601105903.0097a890@mail.pncl.co.uk> <000301bfcc87$d6d381a0$9dd699d4@w8k3f0> <003701bfce1a$2a24f580$93fb88d4@w8k3f0> In-reply-to: <003701bfce1a$2a24f580$93fb88d4@w8k3f0> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In message <003701bfce1a$2a24f580$93fb88d4@w8k3f0>, Dick Rollema writes >To All from PA0SE > >In an earlier e-mail I wrote: > >> >Computer program AO by Brian Beezley, K6STI, shows for the L-antenna >over >> >medium ground an almost perfect omnidirectional radiation pattern. The >> >deviation >> >from a circle is no more than about 0.1dB. > >Mike Powell commented: > >> And yet did not Marconi use a vertical antenna with a long horizontal >> wire to obtain directivity from Cape Race? When the original aerials >> came down in a gale he found equal or stronger signal strengths using an >> inverted 'L' with the arm pointing the right way. > >Mike, > >It depends on the length of the horizontal part af the antenna. > >Jim used only 42m. > >When the top is increased to 0.1 wavelength than a F/B-ratio of 2.23dB >results. > >With a top of 0.25 wavelength F/B becomes 3.51dB. Thanks, Dick Considering the poor receivers in use at the time and the ratio of vertical to horizontal (1:1?) I would have expected a bigger improvement. Mike -- M.J.Powell