Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24226 invoked from network); 2 Jun 2000 09:38:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 2 Jun 2000 09:38:45 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12xnle-0000Ey-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:29:26 +0100 Received: from mserv1c.u-net.net ([195.102.240.33]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12xnld-0000Et-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:29:25 +0100 Received: from rsgb.u-net.com ([195.102.80.225] helo=rsgb.org.uk) by mserv1c.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #35) id 12xnko-0000M8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:28:34 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.4.R) for ; Fri, 02 Jun 2000 10:15:27 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:15:25 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: BPSK and other modes In-reply-to: <000501bfcc6e$af6899c0$441886d4@kevin> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail.rsgbhq Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > Lastly, and with reference to recent comments on the reflector, perhaps a > more correct term than "machine modes" would be "machine-assisted modes"! > Regards > Kevin, G1HDQ At the risk of winding everyone up, what is "machine assisted"? What is the difference between DSP for audio reception and DSP for screen reception? Or is the analogue filter a machine, or the receiver itself? In trying to formulate the rules for the Peter Bobeck Award, we agonised over this sort of thing, and concluded that if you are going to make any distinction at all, it should be related to the time taken to conclude the QSO (the bit rate in data terms). If it takes an hour to exchange reports and calls, this is arguably a different level of achievement to taking a few minutes, no matter whether you repeat CW or SSB over and over (and who hasn't done that from time to time?) or have very long dots, or a clever redundancy arrangement. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm