Return-Path: Received: (qmail 13325 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 22:29:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 22:29:05 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12z5Ez-0001Y3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 23:21:01 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.13]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12z5Ex-0001Xy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 23:21:00 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [202.27.178.92] by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail vM.4.01.02.17 201-229-119) with SMTP id <20000605220529.NLFA12761555.mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz@[202.27.178.92]> for ; Tue, 6 Jun 2000 10:05:29 +1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <393C1C5C.6D4@xtra.co.nz> Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2000 09:32:12 +1200 From: "vernall" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-XTRA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Bessel bandpass filter? References: <23462.200006051241@gemini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I wish to thank Jim M0BMU for his good summary comments on filter design, including Bessel types. I do not have either of the two reference books Jim named and I will request the public library to seek them on interloan. While I happen to have quite a good selection of salvaged high Q audio inductors, as for the PA0LQ filter, any confirmed good design is of wider applicability to others if it is an active filter type (and using good op amps). While a coupled passive filter may give good results, it is closer to a special one-off result if the inductor types are hard to acquire. Also if it needs a high impedance load, then it could need an op amp anyway, so it would not be an entirely passive circuit as an accessory. I'm going to include an audio PA chip so the accessory filter can have a volume control and feed a loudspeaker or low impedance headphones or a PC sound card. Suggestions of others resulted in some PC CAD software being downloaded, and this is mostly of the "demo" or "knobbled" variety as it is "free". I have found it to be very interesting where group delay curves are available. However, as at present I have yet to find out what results from selected stagger tuning (of isolated resonators, using active filters). 73, Bob ZL2CA