Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3856 invoked from network); 5 Jun 2000 19:58:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 5 Jun 2000 19:58:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12z2ra-0000rC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 20:48:42 +0100 Received: from mail.cybergap.net ([205.146.129.15] helo=piiserver.cybergap.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12z2rZ-0000r5-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 20:48:41 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from hifidelity.com (judy6.cybergap.net [205.146.129.41]) by piiserver.cybergap.net (2.5 Build 2640 (Berkeley 8.8.6)/8.8.4) with ESMTP id PAA00052 for ; Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:48:00 -0400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <393C0349.DC15DF1C@hifidelity.com> Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2000 15:45:13 -0400 From: "Steve Dove" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.06 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Copying CW References: <393BE7C4.BC109C1C@hifidelity.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Mike, Reticon was who I meant, however they seemed to have skipped out of that town, too. A further 30 seconds perusal of the Digikey book turned up a bunch of Panasonic parts of various lengths and permutations. For a millisecond or two even the shortest devices would be adequate (sampling-rate limitations rule here just as they do in digital); at a stab I'd say the 8-pin DIP MN3009 256-bucket alleged 'low-noise' part at $4.84 would be the one. It with a 555 to clock it is basically all you'd need. Other parts listed are MN3003,8,10,11,12, MN3204,6,8,9 and 14 if that helps you source them closer to home. 73 Steve Steve Dove wrote: > Hi Mike, > > Ooooh, analogue. I remember that. > > Possibly still available (I checked the Digikey book without success, but > RS etc. maybe?) would be bucket-brigade delay lines, which were used > extensively for audio effects (delay / spin / reverb etc.) in the olde > days. Recoton was a manufacturer if memory serves, as I think were > NatSemi, but they've been shedding even less esoteric product than that in > recent years. > > They had only so-so noise performance, but their dynamic range would be > plenty good enough for what you're suggesting. The through delay is > varied by clocking their fixed-length chain of buckets faster or slower. > > 73 > > Steve W3EEE / G3YDV > > Mike Dennison wrote: > > > I have been playing around with feeding differently derived audio into > > the two halves of stereo headphones with some interesting results. > > I will report in detail when the tests are complete. In short, it is > > certainly possible to improve headphone reception, both in terms of > > close-in selectivity and resistance to static. > > > > One question. How do I make an electronic circuit to delay a > > broadband audio signal by about one-thousandth of a second, > > without resorting to DSP? Any genius out there with a simple > > circuit? And yes I do know about the methods (that were originally > > used for electric guitar echo) such as connecting the diaphragms of > > a loudspeaker and a microphone by using a spring, and also the > > tape recorder method. > > > > Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) > > http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm