Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14245 invoked from network); 4 Jun 2000 15:06:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 4 Jun 2000 15:06:56 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12ybtf-0003Kv-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:01:03 +0100 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.200.20.13]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12ybtd-0003Kq-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 16:01:02 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from as33-s15-150-21.cwci.net ([195.44.150.21] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12ybtb-0002E1-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 04 Jun 2000 15:00:59 +0000 Message-ID: <393A6092.1E13426E@netscapeonline.co.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2000 13:58:43 +0000 From: "g3kev" Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Re: Aerial tests References: <19213.200006021741@gemini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: James Moritz wrote: > Dear LF Group, > Some comments on G3JKV's recent E-mail - > > I calculated the ERP on the basis of the measured antenna current > and estimated radiation resistance of the two antennas. Part of the > reasoning behind this was that the antenna efficiency would not be > an issue; the radiated power is just I squared times the radiation > resistance, and the calculated radiation resistance is a function > only of the antenna geometry, and not it's losses. In principle at > least, the only result of improved efficiency due to the Decca earth > mat would be to reduce the amount of transmitter power required to > produce the measured value of antenna current. So antenna > efficiency did not actually enter into the calculation of ERP, and the > presence or absence of the Decca earth would not have affected > the result of the calculation. > > Having said that, clearly the ERP calculations are wrong because > there was a significant difference in signal strength, and so by > definition ERP, between the two antennas, where the calculations > said they should be the same. Unfortunately this makes the whole comparison tests between the small inv L and the large vertical FLAWED. Next time compare the large vertical against a small 9 metre vertical without any horizontal wires. Resonate each vertical in turn and check the reports. I will put my money on the large vertical. G3KEV > Unfortunately, my field strength > measuring equipment is not accurate enough to say for certain that > this was because the small antenna was producing more ERP than > it should, or that the Decca antenna was producing less than it > should. However, it is probably easier to believe the former, since > the assumptions on which the calculations are based are more > nearly met by the Decca antenna than the small inverted L. > > I don't know if this experiment has much to tell us about the > presence or absence of horizontally polarised signals; however, > the ferrite rod antenna I used to measure field strengths showed > the difference in field strength of roughly 4dB observed by nearly > everyone else, and should not have been sensitive to horizontally > polarised signals (ie. vertical H field). > > Cheers, Jim Moritz > 73 de M0BMU