Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26890 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 12:11:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 12:11:56 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 1300t3-0004Px-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:54:13 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 1300t2-0004Ps-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 08 Jun 2000 12:54:12 +0100 Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id MAA07828; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:58:12 +0100 (BST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 5707 invoked from network); 8 Jun 2000 12:49:06 -0000 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 8 Jun 2000 12:49:06 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id MAA20009; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:49:09 GMT Received: from unknown(10.71.64.31) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma019994; Thu, 8 Jun 00 12:48:46 GMT Received: from frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:59:48 +0100 Received: by frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:52:45 +0100 Message-ID: <3617AC3245C2D1118A840000F805359C01AB8CAC@pdw-mercury-1.dera.gov.uk> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: LF PA with tube... Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2000 12:52:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >Anybody have an idea how to build an power amplifier with single tube ? >I have some GU81's. They needs about Ua=2000 V and Ia(max)=600mA. >I calculated Pi match, but values of capacitors are to high...anybody knows >how to do it other way ? >Thank you very much for all info... >Rich OM2TW Sell it and get some power Mosfets.......... More seriously though, what is wrong with this pi-network ? assuming an Rl for the valve of 2000V / 0.6 A = 3300 ohms which will allow over 1kW out, a pi match with Q of 12 to get to 50 ohms needs Cin = 4nF (rated 4kV plus) L = 361uH Cout 23.3nF Rated 500V. The first one is slightly tricky, but high voltage ceramic caps up to 10kV do exist up to a few nF do exist, so connect them in parallel to tune. Cout is no problem. The inductor could be 140 - 150 turns of 2mm wire on an 80mm diameter former. Get hold of some Litz wire from old Decca transmitter loading coils. The DC choke will be interesting though. An LOT of turns on a ferrite core, and remember it has to be gapped or a dust core as it has DC flowing. Alternatively feed in the DC through a more modest choke at the 50 ohm point in which case Cout has to be rated at 3kV and another blocking cap of say 100n rated 3kV is needed. Alternatively find the biggest ferrite core suitable for switch mode PSU you can lay your hands on and wind an output transformer. Even stack cores if you have to. Minimum number of turns for a given ferrite core area is given by : N = Vrf(RMS) / (4.44. F . A . B) Using B = 0.2 Tesla (suitable for most SMPSU ferrite materials), A = 300 x 10^-6 m^2 for a large SMPSU core and V = 3kV, at 137kHz gives minimum number of turns of just 55. Transformation ratio = SQRT(3300 / 50) = 8.2 : 1 Remember the winding has to be insulated for 3 - 4kV and DC flowing through it could present a problem of saturation, so monitor core temperature carefully. 100deg is usually OK provided the wire can take it. You will also need an output low pass filter but component values here are a bit less restrictive. It is all a lot easier, even at the 1kW level, with solid state devices. Andy G4JNT > ---------- > From: Gasparik Richard[SMTP:Richard.Gasparik@siemens.sk] > Reply To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: 2000-06-08 10:18 > To: Rsgb_Lf_Group (E-mail) > Subject: LF: LF PA with tube... > > Hi all... > -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.