Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14482 invoked from network); 28 Jun 2000 22:51:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 28 Jun 2000 22:51:01 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 137QYn-0001k3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:43:57 +0100 Received: from neodymium.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.83] helo=neodymium) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 137QYm-0001jy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:43:56 +0100 Received: from [213.1.188.34] (helo=default) by neodymium with smtp (Exim 3.03 #16) id 137QYk-00072V-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 28 Jun 2000 23:43:55 +0100 Message-ID: <000201bfe152$05be7900$22bc01d5@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Subject: LF: Antenna wire materials Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2000 20:26:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi Larry, I will fly this through the reflector so it can generate some Flak. It occurs to me that you are having separate TX and RX sites......so presumably separate aerials. I would not think that you want to transmit into a very long wire (though several do quite successfully) but that your main interest in this would be in receive as a Beverage format. My reason for saying this is that I suspect that wire resistance is not quite so much an issue on a receive aerial, so you could probably use a steel/copper stranded mix for a long span. You do not want to put a lot of effort into the erection of many support masts for such a short period. I am aware that a good TX antenna is usually a good RX antenna, but the reverse is not necessarily true (e.g. small loop) Now, at the risk of creating a furore, in the case on an 'L' or a 'T' antenna for TX, the current flowing in the vertical section is all important so this needs to be thick and low resistance, but when it gets up into the top section it doesn't matter so much as this is all 'top loading' so several smaller lighter wires would do. You could even use telephone 'drop-wire' (steel/copper stranded mix, you can see my upbringing, but I don't know whether your telcos have a different name for it ) the current in these wires is supposed to be lost to radiation so what matter if a bit is lost in resistance?. That is a challenge to the modellers to calculate how many tenths of a dB you will loose with resistive top wires. I am assuming you will not want to transit on a low horizontal dipole, because too much of the power would be lost straight up in the air. On top of these you will need to consider the kind of wire for kite use (I think you said you had found a kite specialist) Dave and Mike are better sources on that topic. Hopefully my misconceptions can be corrected with experimental experience, but I do like to look at problems from strange angles, if not quite laterally. Cheers de Alan G3NYK Alan.Melia@btinternet.com