Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10727 invoked from network); 26 May 2000 17:30:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 26 May 2000 17:30:18 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12vNr0-0004Wa-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:24:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from oso.slonet.org ([207.114.180.2] ident=cbuttsch) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12vNqz-0004WU-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 26 May 2000 18:24:57 +0100 Received: from localhost by oso.slonet.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA01868; Fri, 26 May 2000 10:24:50 -0700 (PDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Fri, 26 May 2000 10:24:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Clifford Buttschardt" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: "John Davis" Subject: Re: LF: Optimal width for LF? In-reply-to: <392056A6.F57284D1@slonet.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Further update on the filters mentioned below. I am convinced that any filter has enough tolerance variations that experimental "tweeking" is necessary for minimum ringing. Most of us are using 800 hertz center frequencies obtained from a crystal source. This signal was then gated by a function generator (a morse keyer works just fine too!) while carefully adjusting all poles. Sometimes interchanging pole position is valuable! The conclusion is that experimentation is more valuable than calculation for these filters! Cliff K7RR On Mon, 15 May 2000, Cliff Buttschardt wrote: > Christer and the group. I was delighted to get the two URL's > containing the 30 Hz filter and noise blanker. You might > remember > some years ago the "HDO" phase linear filter. That was when I > was W6HDO rather than K7RR. For years that filter served us > well. I really enjoyed the experimental way of finding least > ringing, so I placed variable resistors in the old design > using > an automatic key. Even the old Williams textbook approach > benefited from experimental "tweaking". 73 Cliff K7RR > > C Andersson wrote: > > > > >Could you post a brief text summary of your design? > > >73, Bob ZL2CA > > > > PA0LQ filter descriptions: > > http://www.alg.demon.co.uk/radio/136/af_filter.htm > > http://home5.swipnet.se/~w-54761/pa0lq_filter.htm > > > > 73 > > Christer, sm6pxj > >