Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16271 invoked from network); 9 May 2000 08:56:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 9 May 2000 08:56:05 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12p5hS-0005Mb-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2000 09:49:06 +0100 Received: from mserv1b.u-net.net ([195.102.240.137]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12p5hQ-0005MW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 May 2000 09:49:04 +0100 Received: from rsgb.u-net.com ([195.102.80.225] helo=rsgb.org.uk) by mserv1b.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12p5h4-0005In-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:48:42 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.0.R) for ; Tue, 09 May 2000 09:32:37 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:32:35 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Spectran accuracy In-reply-to: <3916F361.A653D43F@netscapeonline.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail.rsgbhq Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > Rik Strobbe wrote: > > > Everybody who is involved in extreme narrowband mode such as QRSS and > > DFCW will confirm that signals that are 10 to 20dB below the 'normal CW' > > detectable level can still be copied and lead to a QSO. OK, it takes > > about 30 minutes or more but this time period is accepted for Meteor > > Scatter contact on VHF (I believe that the time limit for a valid QSO is > > 2 hours for MS). Nothing wrong with being a 'die hard' CW operator, but > > that is no reason for neglecting the fact that extreme narrowband modes > > are superior to 'normal speed' CW when it comes to signal to noise > > ratio. Both theory and practise proves this. > G3KEV replied: > Tell me Rik, why is there no qrss(LMCW) when the band is noisy like lots > of qrn/static about. > My ANSWER after monitoring and experimentation with > spectran is that the qrn chops the long dashes and you cannot > be sure if it was lots of dots. On the contrary, I find that the advantage of QRSS is even greater under heavy QRN - it's often the only mode that is viable in the summer. Static crashes are usually much shorter than the dot period and it is much easier to watch the bright white lines of static than to listen to QRN. I cannot vouch for Spectran, but Spectrogram works well under these conditions. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm