Return-Path: Received: (qmail 9619 invoked from network); 13 May 2000 21:27:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 13 May 2000 21:27:24 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12qjLd-0004S6-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2000 22:21:21 +0100 Received: from mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.13]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12qjLa-0004S0-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 13 May 2000 22:21:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from [202.27.181.180] by mta3-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000513212024.BJRV10955419.mta3-rme@[202.27.181.180]> for ; Sun, 14 May 2000 09:20:24 +1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <391DC6F3.A51@xtra.co.nz> Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 09:19:47 +1200 From: "vernall" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-XTRA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Optimal width for LF? References: <09e401bfbc0e$5e55ab60$2301a8c0@maly.cz.gmc.net> <391C6885.A4BB64A8@bellatlantic.net> <001c01bfbcbe$1b0fed60$a747b28f@w8k3f0> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dick Rollema wrote: > Narrow bandwidth filters do not have to ring provided they are of the > phase-linear type (constant group delay in the passband). > > I use a home made passive phase-linear filter with a bandwidth of 30Hz and > centre frequency of 1000Hz. It can pass up to 24 wpm without trouble > (unfortunately the operator can't ...) The filter has four tuned circuits > with coils in large ferrite potcores. > > Harry, PA0LQ, has designed a similar filter of the active type using 4 > opamps. If you are interested in his design write to: > > H.A.A. Grimbergen, PA0LQ > Lijtweg 1202 > 2341 HE Oegstgeest > The Netherlands > > 73, Dick, PA0SE Are they a "Bessel" design? All analogue filters have some trade-off between skirt selectivity, phase response and ripple in the passband. Murphy's Law applies too, in that the phase linear types (least ringing) also have least skirt selectivity. Hence using 4 stages in your phase linear filter? Could you post a brief text summary of your design? 73, Bob ZL2CA