Return-Path: Received: (qmail 12596 invoked from network); 18 May 2000 11:54:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 18 May 2000 11:54:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12sOlk-0004CC-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:47:12 +0100 Received: from public2.thorcom.com ([212.172.148.20] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12sOlj-0004C7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:47:11 +0100 Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by public2.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12sOlL-0007V2-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:46:48 +0100 Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id MAA14083; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:47:19 +0100 (BST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 30948 invoked from network); 18 May 2000 12:39:32 -0000 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 18 May 2000 12:39:32 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id MAA25604; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:41:13 GMT Received: from unknown(146.80.11.40) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma025561; Thu, 18 May 00 12:40:40 GMT Received: from frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:48:17 +0100 Received: by frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Thu, 18 May 2000 12:42:09 +0100 Message-ID: <3617AC3245C2D1118A840000F805359C01AB8C4A@pdw-mercury-1.dera.gov.uk> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: LF receivers Date: Thu, 18 May 2000 12:42:07 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I use a Racal RA1792. Gradually becoming available on the surplus market now, at prices coming down from 'silly'. They started at £1000 a few years ago but are now appearing at £400- £500 and ought to drop further as G_HQ and the coastal radio stations get rid of their huge stocks. Designed in the late 1970's and used throughout the 80's, biggest users were military / government organisations, and commercial ones such as marine coastal radio stations. An excellent HF receiver with frequency coverage from sub-10kHz to 30 MHz, IF filters down to 300Hz as standard, and the essential separate BFO control for setting the CW tone as well as SSB modes - plus AM and FM. Tuning is by knob or keypad entry, and 100 memories are available which store the complete receiver settings of filter bandwidth, BFO setting as well as the frequency. Short and long-hang AGC is selectable with manual backoff, plus fully manual control over 90dB range with a single knob. AGC voltage is available on a rear connector, which could be used for example for logging purposes. Rear panel line level outputs at 1mW are perfect for feeding directly into Soundcards or DSP systems with a 600 ohm terminating resistor. The second IF, where most of the filtering is done, is at 455kHz and an external output is usually available at this frequency for external processing. Circuits etc. are well documented (at least if you get the proper Racal manual), with large size conventional leaded component PCBs, ideal for 'amateur' modifications. Most importantly for my purposes, all internal frequencies are generated from the one reference oscillator, which can be fed in externally at 1, 5 or 10 MHz. The main downside is 10Hz tuning steps, although I believe later models do allow 1Hz steps. Another it its weight - about 20kg - and the fact that remote control (if available) uses a non standard serial data format even worse than the many amateur rig standards. ............................... For a really top flight receiver (for lottery winners perhaps ?), consider the Watkins Johnson WJ8711. This is a modern digital receiver for near DC to 30MHz, with just about every filtering function ever wanted available; 66 IF bandwidths from 56Hz to 16kHz plus other DSP functions. The receiver is ridiculously priced in the UK, and is subject to US export controls (it is considered to be a Munition, believe it or not !! ) but Lowe do (did ?) sell a 'commercial' re-badged version, which as far as I can see is near enough identical but costs even more. I won't quote a price as it has probably changed from when we bought the proper WJ one for work three years ago, but look at "similar to a top of the range amateur HF transceiver" US operators may well find it is considerably cheaper over there. Andy G4JNT > ---------- > From: Peter Dodd[SMTP:g3ldo@zetnet.co.uk] > Reply To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Sent: 2000-05-18 10:11 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: LF: Re: LF receivers > > I am working on the Receiver chapter for the LF book. I have a good > introduction written by John 4GVC (with a description of the TS850, > which caused many of us, including myself, to go this route) but > would like to bring it up to date in the light of your collective > experience. While I was up at Crawley I found that Derek was using > the 990 to good effect. > What is your favorite receiver and how does it compare with others > that you might have tried? > > > -- > Regards, Peter, G3LDO > > > > -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution,o r any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.