Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3114 invoked from network); 16 May 2000 08:52:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 16 May 2000 08:52:56 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12rcz9-0005iN-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:45:51 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12rcz5-0005iI-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:45:47 +0100 Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id JAA17882; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:48:59 +0100 (BST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 23470 invoked from network); 16 May 2000 09:41:20 -0000 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 16 May 2000 09:41:20 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id JAA21894; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:43:15 GMT Received: from unknown(146.80.11.40) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma021838; Tue, 16 May 00 09:43:09 GMT Received: from frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:50:25 +0100 Received: by frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id ; Tue, 16 May 2000 09:44:22 +0100 Message-ID: <3617AC3245C2D1118A840000F805359C01AB8C46@pdw-mercury-1.dera.gov.uk> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: LF power amplifiers Date: Tue, 16 May 2000 09:44:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > Referring to John KD4IDY's note - > > I cannot help but feel a bit uneasy about the use of class D > amplifiers followed by conventional shunt C series L pi-section > filters - although the designs using them do seem to work OK. The > shunt C is surely going to increase the circulating current at the > harmonic frequencies, stressing the active devices more an lowering > efficiency. I would have thought that the first component of the > output filter should be an inductor - either giving a Tee section > filter, or Pi section with an even number of elements. Dave / Dave > can you comment further ?. > > This approach is preferred by G8GSQ who has built high power HF Mosfet > PAs and finds the initial L in the output filter improves device > stability considerably. QEX ran an article on HF PA filters a few > months ago, and these ended up as quite complex diplexing units in > order to present the devices with respectable out of band impedances. > A tank circuit actually sounds quite attractive on first thoughts just > as a filtering element, but unlike a valve, we are dealing with much > lower impedances. Back in the valve class C PA days, (I'm just old > enough to remember these from several Practical Wireless articles) > seem to recall a loaded Q of 12 being taken as optimum. To get this > sort of Q at a 50V rail 10A current needs a seriously small value of > inductor in a conventional tank. > > A back of envelope calculation : > > If Rload = 50V / 10A = 2 ohms and Ql = 12 then Xl = 2 / 12 = > 0.17 ohms = 194nH at 137kHz. Which is one turn (or less) on a decent > sized iron dust former or a few turns of VERY thick wire in air. > Furthermore, with I = 10A and Q = 12 then circulating currents > approach 120 Amps. Enough said. In practice, tapping into the tank > circuit would be used and the easist way to achieve this is to use two > capacitors rather than try to tap into turns with high current wire, > so now a choke is needed to feed in DC. An alternative to tapping is > to use a transformer, which also has the advantage of isolating the > antenna circuit from the PA at DC. We now have a transformer PA > followed by a resonant network just providing filtering - Beginning to > look familiar ? > > In the early days of 73kHz I tried this approach, but the high Q > output network was too prone to destroying devices when mistuned, and > particularly when the antenna went off resonance. The ultimate design > was a half bridge circuit running off 340 Volt rectified mains, output > transformer and C/L tank using an air wound inductor rather than > conventional Pi filter. For a time it delivered 700 Watts into a > dummy load of multiple 150W light bulbs quite happily - until I keyed > the circuit a few times. Remember what the resistance of light bulbs > are when cold and the current surges when switched on. There is a lot > of energy in 1000uF of capacitors charged to 340V. Never did like CW > ! After blowing four IRF450 fets spectacularly plus two bridge > driver chips I decided this was rather dangerous and kept with > conventional class B designs from then on. But now that really high > power is wanted, it may be time to look at using rectified mains > again. The output transformer provides one side of a safety barrier > and input isolation can come from a transformer or opto isolators. > An input transformer is preferable as it protects preceeding devices > from large DC voltages/currents generated as a result of FETs > exploding. Switch mode PSUs have been doing this for a long time with > a good safety record and there is a large base of SMPSU components > both surplus and in the catalogues. Everyone uses SMPSUs these days. > > I don't have a death wish, so will leave such a PA to others to > develop. > > On the last point of John's note... > > At the moment I'm developing a Pulse Width Modulator for supplying > Class D PAs. This will accept a binary word (which can of course be > the output of a A/D converter) and control the supply voltage to the > PA. The aim is for a supply which will operate with 50V input and > supply 0 - 50V out at currents up to 10A. Software authors could > hopefully be persuaded to make phase and amplitude available > separately, digitally, or these could be regenerated as per John's > suggestion. The PWM scheme is open loop so can operate very fast - > I'm using a switching frequency of 50kHz but this is not critical. > Modulation up to a few kHz should be feasible. Works OK so far at up > to 3.5 Amps output, but I haven't tested at full current yet not > having had any suitable switching devices in the 'junk box', but I > hope to in a few days time, so watch this space......... > > I already have a PIC/EEPROM based PSK31 beacon which supplies > separate amplitude and phase, and have tested this successfully on > 1.8MHz at 8 watts, but with a 12V supply rail just being very > inefficiently modulated with an emitter follower - thus negating all > the efficiency advantages of a class C/D PA ! It proved the concept > though. > > Andy G4JNT > > From John KD4IDY > > > >The output of any dual-ended or bridged switching amplifier does not > require > >the flywheel effect of a traditional tank circuit. The output of the > > amplifier is simply a square wave, from which everything but the > fundamental > can and should be stripped (with impedance transformation, where > necessary). > Unlike single-ended switches, which require resonant circuits with a > certain > minimum loaded Q to opreate at all, dual-ended switching amplifiers > can be > built to work over roughly an octave without retuning. > Side note: If a "linear" amplifier is desired with extremely high > overall > efficiency, one solution at medium power levels is to use > envelope-elimination-and-recovery. (That was the late Helge > Granville's name > for it at Motorola, though I suspect there are other terms in use as > well.) > The signal to be amplified is passed to both an envelope detector and > a hard > limiter. The hard limiter output becomes the RF drive for the > switching-mode > final amplifier, be it Cass D or E or something else. The > baseband/envelope > voltage is amplified linearly, although this can be done at high > efficiency > too, in an amplifier switched with pulse duration modulation or other > techniques. The amplified envelope becomes the source voltage for the > final > RF amplifier. Assuming there are no significant time errors between > the RF > and envelope paths, the output can be a highly accurate representation > of the > input, as the RF path preserves the phase information impressed on the > > carrier and the envelope contains the amplitude information. All > modulation > schemes involve varying amplitude and/or phase, so the technique works > for > CW, SSB, PSK, AM, QAM, etc. There are some practical complexities, > but I > know amateurs who have used it successfully at levels of several > hundred > watts. > > > > -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). 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