Return-Path: Received: (qmail 14293 invoked from network); 13 Apr 2000 10:04:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by dimple.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 13 Apr 2000 10:04:49 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12fgMO-0004Ff-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:56:28 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.91]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12fgMM-0004FW-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:56:27 +0100 Received: from telemetry.demon.co.uk ([194.222.19.114]) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12fgM8-000NCV-0X for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:56:13 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2000 10:22:14 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Tom Boucher" Subject: Re: LF: Nonsense from G3KEV In-reply-to: <38F4CF75.B42A1976@netscapeonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In message <38F4CF75.B42A1976@netscapeonline.co.uk>, g3kev writes > > >If you read the literature published by one of the researchers/experimenters >of class D/E amplifiers, he states that if you push the amplifiers, which >most amateurs do, and do not pay attention to the LPF, you are then radiating >a distorted square wave, with all its odd order harmonics, he goes on to say >that for larger than normal antenna systems one would need possible more than >the normal 5 pole filter between the mosfets and the antenna. >I own a quality spectrum analyser and can verify what he says to be correct. >Very few signals generated by such amplifiers and used by radio amateurs have >a pure sine wave output after one 5 pole LPF, except at very low power >levels, also have a look at the ripple content super imposed on the signal >because the power supplies normally used by radio amateurs are not regulated >or well smoothed. . >With your modest amplifier and long wire a few feet above ground you have >nothing to worry about. >G3KEV > >Quite true, but any RF filtering at the output of your transmitter will have no effect on key clicks unless you manage to devise an RF filter with only fraction of a Hz bandwidth. Filtering within the keying circuit of the transmitter is the only way you can lengthen the rise and fall time of the transmitted signal and as you rightly say, once the keying characteristic has been defined, a linear amplifier should follow in order to preserve the rise and fall. The exception to this is in the G3YXM design, which I use and I believe you use. Dave controls the mark/space ratio of the drive waveform during keying, so even though followed by a non-linear 'switched mode' PA, the keyed output waveform rises and falls smoothly. 73, Tom G3OLB. > >