Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3081 invoked from network); 3 Apr 2000 01:36:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by redlabel.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 3 Apr 2000 01:36:46 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12bvhZ-00059t-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 02:30:49 +0100 Received: from imo13.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.3]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12bvhX-00052g-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 03 Apr 2000 02:30:47 +0100 Received: from WarmSpgs@aol.com by imo13.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v25.3.) id l.4b.2562981 (6963) for ; Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:29:59 -0400 (EDT) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal From: WarmSpgs@aol.com Message-ID: <4b.2562981.26194e17@aol.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Sun, 2 Apr 2000 21:29:59 EDT Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Fast CW and big antennas... To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 16-bit for Windows sub 70 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: In a message dated 00-04-02 18:06:25 EDT, Steve writes: << If we just strive to mimic commercial installations what is the point? >> This is certainly a legitimate concern, but I wonder if the nature of the debate isn't being overstated. There may be a few folks who say it's all not worthwhile unless we can do it to commercial standards, but I think most of us who haunt the LF bands know that's seldom practical. (Please, don't pigeonhole me in any "silent majority" category, though! That still has uncomfortable political connotations over here.) American LF enthusiasts don't fit the stereotype of the "California Kilowatt" amateur. Living where we remain stuck with the limits one watt DC input and 15 metres of total antenna and transmission line, we fully appreciate what Steve says about experimenters "whose motivation is one of the pure thrill of the challenge (whether 10km or 2000km) and are competing with the physics, etc, not each other." That's been us all along, and I hope it always will be. However, I would argue the other side of the coin to this extent: If we choose to ignore commercial practice, what is the point? Seems to me _that_ constitutes reinventing the wheel. Wouldn't it be better to understand the wheel first, then try to improve upon it within our practical limitations? 73, John KD4IDY