Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21557 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 11:25:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 11:25:15 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12h9ZA-0001uW-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:19:44 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12h9Z9-0001uR-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:19:43 +0100 Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id MAA06863; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:22:22 +0100 (BST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 8544 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2000 12:16:34 -0000 Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 17 Apr 2000 12:16:34 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id LAA03632; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:06:51 GMT Received: from unknown(146.80.11.40) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma003600; Mon, 17 Apr 00 11:06:21 GMT Received: from frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 4.1.5) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:21:42 +0100 Received: by FRN-GOLD-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <2J098H3R>; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:16:34 +0100 Message-ID: <3617AC3245C2D1118A840000F805359C0175286C@PDW-MERCURY-1> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: RE: Spectran, Spectrogram and extreme QRS - a test ?This mail is UNCLASSIFIED Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 12:16:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: I have not played with Spectran yet, but on the question of dot length...... The optimum dot will depend on the FFT and integration time of the software. Ideally the dot length will be a multiple of the FFT period; three periods will give perfect resolution unless the software uses too excessive an interleave factor, two will be adequate but dots could get masked by impulse noise (an impulse can be several seconds in this mode). What does the 0.03 Hz refer to, is it the FFT bin size or the minimum resolution which is usually two to three bins depending on the window employed. I use either EVMSPEC for the faster rates, or the Dopplergram software for the EVM for slower monitoring, both have rates at binary submultiples of 8000Hz. 30s dots is still fast CW as far as I am concerned ! If your transmitter is REALLY stable, and I mean significantly better than 0.1ppm / 0.01 Hz and with the frequency known to this accuracy, I should be able to do an LF Dopplergram on your signal and see what day / night ionospheric effects are visible. These effects do show up on the DCF 77.5 kHz signal and 137 should show a lot more. Here the sampling rate of the signal will be 8000 / (2^18) = 0.03 Hz and a 256 point FFT allows signal monitoring in a 240uHz bandwidth. It won't take much notice of the 30 second dot period ! Andy G4JNT >Since we are used to 3 second dots with Spectrogram, it seems appropriate >to go to 30 sec with Spectran at maximum resolution. >Now, I want to arrange a test, if someone is interested, of course. I'm >planning to beacon for some days at low power, sending a message with QRS in DFCW >mode on 137.790 / 137.792, at 30 sec/dot, with 20 sec interval. >I will reduce RF power to 10 Watt, giving an approximative ERP of 10 mW. With >this power setting my 900W TX will run unattended for days (I hope...) >, if you have a stable RX with a stable BFO ! -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.