Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28376 invoked from network); 15 Apr 2000 11:21:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 15 Apr 2000 11:21:55 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12gQM5-0003pp-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:03:13 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from irwell.zetnet.co.uk ([194.247.47.48] ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12gQM4-0003pk-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:03:12 +0100 Received: from central.zetnet.co.uk (central.zetnet.co.uk [194.247.47.20]) by irwell.zetnet.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian/GNU) with SMTP id MAA08173 for ; Sat, 15 Apr 2000 12:02:58 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-ZSender: g3ldo@zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2000041511023268199@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Sat, 15 Apr 2000 11:02:32 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Peter Dodd" X-Mailer: ZIMACS Version 1.20c 10000836 Subject: Re: LF: Slow CW Sensitivity Measurments Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hello Geri > I made some laboratory tests this morning to get some indication about the > ability to communicate with signals below noise level using Slow-CW. A most interesting set of measurements. Most of us who use this mode felt that an it gave an extra 15 to 20dBs but this is the first time I have seen objective measurements. While not giving the same noise improvement described in the pionering work of G3PLX and G4JNT described in the LF Experimenter's Book, Spectrogram and Spectran does provide a convenient compromise that can be managed by us non-techies. I have made some improvements to the antenna and although this gives me an extra 0.5Amps on transmit, the downside is that it has increased the level of the Loran sidebands. While the strength of each of these sidebands is not that high the effect of several hundred of them in a passband of 2.7kHz holds the S-meter at S9! While the fix would be to use a directional receiver antenna, such as that used by Laurie or Derek, with QRSS it is not necessary because of the ability of this mode to read signals between the Loran lines. > I would be interested to get your comments or own measurements on this > subject. I do not yet have sufficient experience with Spectran to make full > advantage of this software, so I would like to hear about that software as well. During the month of tests receiving the 20mW erp from I5TGC over an 1800km path (plus Alps) I found Spectran had a slight advantage (even at its Beta stage) mainly because it has a higher frequency resolution. I used the 0.125Hz setting which placed the Loran sidebands (on average) about 15mm apart, which gives plenty of space to see a signal. The best compromise dot period for 0.125Hz apears to be around 5 seconds. At this stage the Speed Control (integration time?) is not slow enough take advantage of the 0.064 and 0.032Hz settings of Spectran. It would be interesting test these narrower settings to find the limit of the soundcard. Geri, I would be most interested in any tests you may make on Spectran - I take it you have a copy. -- Regards, Peter, G3LDO