Return-Path: Received: (qmail 821 invoked from network); 14 Apr 2000 12:36:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 14 Apr 2000 12:36:30 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12g5EW-0000MX-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:30:00 +0100 Received: from ds-img-3.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.136] helo=spdmgaac.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12g5EU-0000MN-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 13:29:58 +0100 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id IAA19590 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:29:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2000 08:28:48 -0400 From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: Discussion, please, Coast location vs DCF39 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <200004140829_MC2-A13A-479B@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Larry, >A vigorous discussion on the path loss over land issues will be most >appreciated. >Larry >VA3LK at least the pass loss over Germany seems not to be as serious as we anticipated. If you have a look on my homepage (www.qru.de), you will see that all theoretical calculations make the field strength curve bend downwards after 80 or 100 km. What Gamal and me measured, showed a strict logarithmic behaviour at least up to my door (120 km away from DCF39). So there is hope for some dB ... But seriously: I think you saidpreviously that you was able to hear DCF39 above the noise, so as G0MRF and ON7YD said in an earlier mail its only 26 dB difference and that should hopefully do it (I can detect QRSS signals approximately 15 to 20 dB below the weakest signal I just can detect by ear ...). The difference between my signal and DCF39 is about 61 dB, that sounds a little bit too difficult ... and I am sure it does not help that I am 120 km closer to Canada compared to DCF39 ... so lets first try with the Decca-Mast Gang! Best 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW)