Return-Path: Received: (qmail 24820 invoked from network); 4 Apr 2000 06:15:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by redlabel.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 4 Apr 2000 06:15:52 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12cMWJ-0004zf-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:08:59 +0100 Received: from ds-img-3.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.136] helo=spdmgaac.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12cMWH-0004ux-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 04 Apr 2000 07:08:57 +0100 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id CAA07302 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:08:14 -0400 (EDT) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Date: Tue, 4 Apr 2000 02:06:27 -0400 From: "'Geri' Kinzel, DK8KW" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: S-meter readings... To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <200004040206_MC2-9FCE-5D4@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Steve, when I learned for my license at the beginning of the 70ties, I still used to learn the old system for S 1 to S 9 reports to be judged by ear. And that of course depends very much on the background noise and several other factors that are completely depending on the person giving the reprot. On LF I use a level-meter so I can read the signal strength directly in dBu (0 dBu = 0.775 V). I calibrated this relative measurment using a one-meter diameter loop so that I sould be able to determine strength in dB microVolt/m within +/- 1 dB (still I am missing a couple of dB and don't know exactly why ...). As a reference I use the (constant) signal level of DCF39, so evem with a pre-amplifier or a different antenna I try to give "absolute" dBu-reports for comparison purposes. But off course, if that band is quit I can hear a station quite loed and would give it a S7 or 8 report, when the band is noisy I can barely hear a station that is 20 dB stronger, so just by ear I would give an S3 or 4 report by ear. What I try to do on LF is to give a subjective RST report plus the dBu value. Also on my homepage I list the dBu values, so at least everybody can judge how strong his signal is relative to the other stations. So I believe what you call S-units above noise comes close to the old S 1 to S 9 scale given by ear and reflects more the audible quality of the system than the absolute S-value. Best 73 Geri, DK8KW (W1KW) http://www.qru.de