Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21588 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2000 22:56:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by dimple.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 1 Apr 2000 22:56:05 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12bWcs-000602-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 23:44:18 +0100 Received: from ds-img-3.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.136] helo=spdmgaac.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12bWcm-0005xO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 01 Apr 2000 23:44:13 +0100 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaac.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.9) id RAA11944 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:43:29 -0500 (EST) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Date: Sat, 1 Apr 2000 17:42:49 -0500 From: "Prof R. Jennison" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Subject: LF: The Haves and Have Nots. To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <200004011742_MC2-9F86-79EA@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: The recent debate on very tall masts versus slow digital signal processing was quite amusing and yet slightly disturbing. The cost factors involved on both sides were never mentioned and the assumption seems to be that everyone has a digital computer, lots of spare cash and/or no local planning restrictions. It is also notable that, in the recent suggestions for partitioning the bottom end of the 73 kHz band, those using very slow morse proposed grabbing all the best 50 Hz slots for themselves and relegated manual morse to the worst spot at the bottom of the band, a remarkable sense of priority which is not in keeping with equity or with the better ability of digital integration to overide background noise and QRM. It is very questionable if infra-slow morse should rank for dx records for transmission but could possibly be credited in a special category of reception. If the the slightest signal reaches the receiver it is possible, given enough time, and a little ingenuity, to pull it through. The very first radar moon echoes were detected in the presence of background noise and interference by gating the received signals into echo times centred around two and a half seconds and using very long integration achieved by measuring the relative quantity of gas released from an electrolite in a half hour period - that sounds like real ham radio but it is true! (the experiment was performed by the Hungarian, Z. Bay, c1950). Roger, G2AJV.