Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6930 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2000 13:24:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2000 13:24:56 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12aepk-0006Ai-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:18:00 +0100 Received: from mserv1b.u-net.net ([195.102.240.137]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12aepe-0006AE-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:17:55 +0100 Received: from rsgb.u-net.com ([195.102.80.225] helo=rsgb.org.uk) by mserv1b.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #63) id 12aepN-0006EL-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:17:37 +0100 Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.7.0.R) for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:10:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 14:10:13 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: LF: Amp metres In-reply-to: <38E3350D.4717@xtra.co.nz> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail.rsgbhq Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: > > Didn't Dud Charman's indoor antenna circus demonstrate the truth of the > > axiom that a small antenna has the same radiation pattern as a very > > small antenna? > > I also believe that all short verticals have the same basic radiation > pattern (the upper hemishere of a doughnut, with low angle suckin if > ground loss is significant). > I was privileged to see Dud Charman's aerial circus in the 1960s as a schoolboy. For those who do not know, he had a large copper tray with a coax socket in the centre. He would then feed miniature antennas with UHF or microwaves and demonstrate their radiation pattern with a hand-held RF detector driving a lightbulb. Seeing a text book radiation pattern demonstrated in such a practical way was really amazing. The flaw in this demonstration, however, is that it assumes little or no ground loss. I am sure that with practical levels of ground loss, the lowest angles are attenuated more on very short verticals than on taller ones. Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm