Return-Path: Received: (qmail 15520 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2000 08:27:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by dimple.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 8 Mar 2000 08:27:39 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12SbiY-0004Xw-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:21:18 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.41]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12SbiX-0004Xr-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 08 Mar 2000 08:21:17 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from dennison.demon.co.uk ([194.222.239.33]) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12SbiN-0009aE-0C for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:21:08 +0000 Message-ID: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2000 08:19:45 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Mike Dennison" Subject: Re: LF: antennas for 136kHz In-reply-to: <24138943.952455770288.JavaMail.imail@bubbles.excite.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: G4CNN wrote: >If to the top of a vertical an equal vertical descender is added, insulated >from Earth at the bottom, but otherwise the same length as the original >vertical and coming straight down (like an old-fashioned hair-pin), and >assuming that this is resonated and matched to 50 ohms, will the new antenna >radiate more power, less power or the same power for the same input and why? >This might for example be the other wire of a sufficiently well spaced >feeder (no voltage breakdown), effectively short-circuited at the top and of >low RF resistance. If the end of the downwards vertical is insulated from earth, it won't work as the current in it will partly cancel out the current in the upward part. However, =in theory= you can earth the end of the downward wire, and resonate both wires separately as quarter waves, giving effectively half of a folded vertical dipole. I said =in theory= because it would be very difficult to equalise the two wires such that the current distribution was identical, and you have twice the coil losses. If you could get it to work, there would be an improvement because the radiation resistance would be quadrupled and hence earth losses would be much less. BUT if it was easy to do there would be lots of topband operators using it! Good luck. -- Mike, G3XDV IO91VT http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm