Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23049 invoked from network); 1 Mar 2000 21:31:13 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by redlabel.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 1 Mar 2000 21:31:13 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12QGT6-0006HT-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:15:40 +0000 Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.1]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12QGT2-0006HO-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 01 Mar 2000 21:15:37 +0000 Received: from [203.96.102.41] by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20000301211521.VHNS13182477.mta1-rme@[203.96.102.41]> for ; Thu, 2 Mar 2000 10:15:21 +1300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <38BD877B.79BE@xtra.co.nz> Date: Thu, 02 Mar 2000 10:11:23 +1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 From: "vernall" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-XTRA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Coaxial stub measurements References: <12535.200002282023@gemini> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Thanks to James M0BMU for publishing the results of measurements of UR67 coaxial cable at 100 kHz. The very low Q readings are convincing evidence that using coaxial cable for LF inductive stubs would be rather inefficient. I can confirm that well made loading coils can have a Q of at least 300 at 180 kHz. The tests also verify that the use of coaxial cable with open circuit far end (as a capacitor) would be high Q at LF, however there are not many LF transmitting applications where the voltage rating would be sufficient. For a loaded vertical antenna, the voltage on the "upwire" (at the "hot" of a loading coil) can be rather high. For a given antenna capacitance it is generally better to add more turns to the inductor to resonate the antenna, rather than add parallel capacitance (added capacitance draws some reactive current, but does not assist radiation). The inductor can be wound to have fairly high volts per turn, so the whole inductor can withstand much higher RF voltage than could a capacitor made of coaxial cable. If a given loading coil does not quite have enough inductance to resonate with the antenna, it would be better to add more wire to the top loading. Bob ZL2CA