Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17628 invoked from network); 30 Mar 2000 20:51:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 30 Mar 2000 20:51:17 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12all0-0000Pg-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:41:34 +0100 Received: from lepidachrosite.lion-access.net ([212.19.217.3]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12alkv-0000P4-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 21:41:30 +0100 Received: from w8k3f0 (2410824712.dialin.freeler.nl [143.178.68.8]) by lepidachrosite.lion-access.net (I-Lab) with SMTP id 56040CAF6C for ; Thu, 30 Mar 2000 17:37:04 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000e01bf9a6f$afb84640$0844b28f@w8k3f0> From: "Dick Rollema" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <2000032922075768199@zetnet.co.uk> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Fast CW and big antennas... Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2000 19:44:13 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: To All from PA0SE Peter, G3LDO wrote: > Older LF Receivers. > While at Amberley museum, a few weeks ago, I came across a Marconi > receiver, the CR200. It covers from about 15 to 500kHz in 4 bands so > I asked if I could borrow it to see how it shaped up to modern receivers. > The main difference between it and other receivers, apart from being > an LF receiver, is that it appears to be a TRF receiver, not a > superhet (no IF stages or cans). > It worked first time in spite of probably not having been switched on > for umpteen years. It is very sensitive with a wide range RF gain > control and a preset! LF gain control. I could hear the stronger > stations on 136kHz without any trouble. > While in QSO with M0BMU on 73kHz a couple of nights ago (Jim's signal > was 559) I asked if he would stand by while I tested this receiver > with his signal. When I switched from the TS850 to the CR200 I lost > him competely - the problem was from the Decca signals down the band. > So it would seem that the skirt selectivity of the filter was nowhere > near as good as the TS850. > Perhaps the CR200 was not designed for communications as such; it has > a multi-way socket on the front panel labelled 'DF'. > I will be returning the CR200 back to the museum on Friday and hope > that my hernia is better by the time I go on vacation. In "Radio Bygones" of October/November 1994, Issue No. 31 there is an article by G.L. Grisdale PhD G5GZ called "The Marconi CR Series of Receivers". >From this I quote: " The CR200 The CR200 (Navy B29) is a 5-valve TRF receiver (2-v-2) covering 15 to 550 kHz in four bands. Two audio stages include a narrow bandwidth filter tuned to 1kHz for CW reception. Aerial arrangements include two 'loop' inputs, intended for use in submarine installations where a single-turn loop or frame aerial is fitted for submerged reception, on the lower two frequency bands (15 to 90kHz). For operation with such very insensitive aerials, the CR200 was given very good sensitivity; however, with any normal aerial more than a few feet long, the atmospheric (route) noise would exceed the inernal receiver noise. For long-wave DX enthusiasts the good receiver sensitivity would not matter much." The following specification is included: CR200 (Navy B29) FREQUENCY RANGE: 15 - 150kHz in four bands DC SUPPLIES: Batteries 200V22mA max, 6V 2.1A MAINS SUPPLY: 100/110 or 200/250V AC 33W INPUTS: Dipole or unipole via 80 Ohms feeder. High or low-impedance loop aerial (15 - 90kHz only) SENSITIVITY: See Note 1 OUTPUTS: Jacks for Pattern W.621 head telephones. 5000 Ohms line for Auto High-Speed reception using DC Amplifier M31 DIMENSIONS: 19 x 13.5 x 16in. Weight 82lb VALVES: Position Preferred American type V1,2 VR100 (KTW62) 6K7G V3 VR99 (X66) 6K8G V4 NR68 (DH63) 6Q7G V5 6J5G (L63) 6J5G Power unit VU71A 5U4G Note 1: The handbook AP S.S. 104 gives no sensitivity specifications. However, a Test Certificate for a typical B29 receiver shows a 10dB S/N ratio was achieved across the frequency range with signals of 0.1 - 0.15µV to the 80 Ohms input." 73, Dick, PA0SE