Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28142 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2000 18:55:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 6 Feb 2000 18:55:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12HWjI-0004zR-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 18:48:16 +0000 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.200.20.13]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12HWjH-0004zM-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 18:48:15 +0000 Received: from as21-s15-139-101.cwci.net ([195.44.139.101] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12HWjB-0000gD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 18:48:10 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <389DC1B3.5D7EA841@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 18:47:15 +0000 From: "g3kev" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "rsgb" Subject: LF: OM/G Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: According to G3YXM web page the qso OM2TW and G3KEV was a first between these two countries. To get things into perspective, its a question of being in the right place at the right time. Most stations active on 136 khz have the capability of working each other around europe, and if a new one shows up it depends who is on the band at the time to declare a FIRST. Everybody catches up eventually maybe a few hours later or next day etc. What does suprise me is the assymetrical EAR syndrome. Both OE5ODL and OM2TW were calling cq for ages on and off and NO ONE was replying, especially since Rich announced via the reflector that he would be active. Is it assymetrical EAR or are some receiving systems just so bad that the signals are not audible,or maybe living in a hostile qrn environment where the signals are drowned in noise most of the time. Any of the above are not a good sign for LF operating. I use the same antenna system for TX/RX and cannot see any disadvantages with verticals. Today there was a long rag chew qso on 136.5 ropex frequency between two UK stations on top of two German stations, then a PA0 started up calling CQ then LX1PD started up calling cq EI. I am sure no one would do this deliberately, so what is the problem with RECEIVING. Put a proper antenna up for LF and avoid joysticks and the pocket ferrite varities then check for ASSYMETRICAL EAR SYNDROME. Good luck with the dx de G3KEV