Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7546 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2000 09:46:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 14 Feb 2000 09:46:53 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12KHvD-0006um-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:35:59 +0000 Received: from bob.dera.gov.uk ([192.5.29.90]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12KHvB-0006ug-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:35:57 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: by bob.dera.gov.uk; (8.8.8/1.3/10May95) id JAA32284; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:36:47 GMT Received: (qmail 30306 invoked from network); 14 Feb 2000 10:32:51 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk (172.16.9.10) by baton.dera.gov.uk with SMTP; 14 Feb 2000 10:32:51 -0000 Received: by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk; id JAA16689; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:30:28 GMT Received: from unknown(146.80.11.40) by gauntlet.mail.dera.gov.uk via smap (3.2) id xma016591; Mon, 14 Feb 00 09:30:20 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from frn-gold-1.dera.gov.uk (unverified) by mailguard.dera.gov.uk (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with ESMTP id for ; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:35:04 +0000 Received: by FRN-GOLD-1 with Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) id <1K87D3NP>; Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:33:00 -0000 Message-ID: <3617AC3245C2D1118A840000F805359C01206E39@PDW-MERCURY-1> From: "Talbot Andrew" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: G4JNT Now back on LF Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2000 09:32:59 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.0.1460.8) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello all. After an absence of well over a year I'm now back on LF with a rebuilt transmitter (similar to G0MRF type) and 250 Watts reliably. Antenna tested out - still OK ! - but as its only a 7m high Tee is probably a bit small by modern standards on the bands. ERP estimated at -22dBW based on an antenna current of 1.5 Amps and effective height roughly equal to it's actual figure. Now using a transverter driver from an IC746 so linear modes from DSP are no problem. I'm looking for LF operators who have access to a 56002EVM board in order to try PSK08. This is my adaptation of PSK31 for use on LF but running 4 times slower. The operating signal bandwidth is in the region of 5 Hz and the data rate supports slow typing speeds - still considerably faster than Aural CW I also have an embyronic version of PSK01but this is more difficult to implement on the EVM due to the need for longer length filters. At the moment it works but has responses every 16 Hz, rolling off gradually. Frequency has to be set to within 0.2 Hz or 0.1 Hz for the QPSK mode. Frequency setting is only within 1 Hz at the moment due to the oscillator accuracy in the 746, but this is stable and I can separately calibrate to sub mHz accuracy for specific tests. Re. Michael's comment below, -29dB in what bandwidth ? Remember the 393km QSO I had back in the dark ages of LF with G3PLX on 73kHz. That used a bandwidth of 70mHz and (Very) Slow CW with a 40 second dot period. The S/N for that signal would have been in the region of -26dB in the 'normal' CW bandwidth of 300 Hz, and there were a few dB in hand. Also bear in mind that Spectrogram type reception relies on incoherent visual assessment of colour scales. Proper coherent signal integration can give probably 3 - 6 dB improvement on this - hence my interest in being able to run tests with PSK08 and PSK01. Noise levels on the band seem higher than they used to be a couple of years ago. Is this my imagination or have they really increased ? Andy G4JNT > Who has experience with <-29dB to noise level signal identification? > CoherentCW, PSK, SlowCW, dedicated DSP algotithms? There are lock-in > amplifiers using similar techniques maybe we can benifit there. > > Best 73's and gl on lf > Michael Sanders, PA3BSH > > -- The Information contained in this E-Mail and any subsequent correspondence is private and is intended solely for the intended recipient(s). For those other than the recipient any disclosure, copying, distribution, or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on such information is prohibited and may be unlawful.