Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3658 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2000 15:10:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by dimple.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 6 Feb 2000 15:10:22 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12HTDl-0003Tt-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:03:29 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail.sci.fi ([195.74.0.53] helo=pefletti.saunalahti.fi ident=root) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12HTDj-0003To-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 06 Feb 2000 15:03:27 +0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from default (MCXCVIII.tdyn.saunalahti.fi [195.197.82.98]) by pefletti.saunalahti.fi (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA04931 for ; Sun, 6 Feb 2000 17:03:21 +0200 (EET) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <3.0.6.32.20000206170320.00862560@laatikko.saunalahti.fi> X-Sender: oh2lx@laatikko.saunalahti.fi (Unverified) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sun, 06 Feb 2000 17:03:20 +0200 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?V=E4in=F6_Lehtoranta?= Subject: LF: LF Propagation thoughts MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Some thoughts on 136 kHz Ionospheric propagation Sorry for this not being in phase with T/A ideas. I have found exploring LF propagation refreshing - after a 20-25 year sleepy period. In fact some of my superiors asked me to stop LF/MF research sometime during the last part of 1970's... Succeeded in keeping 24h LF/MF recordings going on until the end of 1999; only VHF/UHF continues. The biggest surprise has been the intensity of the ICM (Ionospheric Cross Modulation) audios on Burg 138.83 kHz carrier. Reaction can be partly explained by the lack of "normal" interferers. Sometimes I can follow Kaliningrad 1386 kHz program by listening it riding on Burg carrier. They are supposed to run >1000 kW to a Dir.ant. Signal strength variation on short paths There (still) is a lot of moderately fast signal strength variation on short LF paths compared to longer paths. Burg 138.83 kHz Fs varies much more than Mainflingen 128.93 kHz signal. The morning "dip" appears mainly on longer 128.93 kHz path. It is normally said in literature that the LF reflection height changes from about 72 km near noon to about 90 km at night. BUT: over distancies less than about 300 km, LF waves are reflected near 80-85 km near noon and about 90-100 km at night. So, for natural reasons there appears to be more fading on short paths compared to longer paths. At our latitudes, even in Southern Finland, there is a lot of ionospheric propagation on LF during daytime in winter. Eg today I heard SXV 135.8 weakly all day long. We have one report on a 92 km long path (Lahti). On the practicability of talking about "hops" Suggested experiment: Draw a circle with a radius of 63.70 cm. Then draw a slightly bigger circle with radius of 64.50 cm, using same center point. With a reflection height of some 80 to 90 km the space between the concentric circles is small..? Pictures are 99% drawn to a completely wrong scale. Might be better talk abt "bends" instead of "hops". Not all active hams are interested on this kind of digging into propagation details. For those who are, I'll be glad to calculate selected paths etc. 73 de Vaino, OH2LX PS As an IARU Region 1 Auroral studies coordinator I should spend more time with Aurora Borealis... On clear evenings I do watch the Northern sky... ---------------------------------------------------------- V.K.Lehtoranta, OH2LX, POBox 50, FIN-05401 Jokela, Finland ------ Tel: +358-9-4173965 ---- Fax: +358-9-4173961 ------ E-mail: vaiski@dlc.fi - alias: oh2lx@dlc.fi & oh2lx@sral.fi