Return-Path: Received: (qmail 3126 invoked from network); 18 Feb 2000 10:53:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 18 Feb 2000 10:53:51 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12Lkv9-0001Ed-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:45:59 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12Lkv7-0001EY-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 10:45:57 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id LAA39712 for ; Fri, 18 Feb 2000 11:45:49 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20000218124330.2ebf3f0e@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 12:43:30 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: Inverted V on LF? In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 10:39 18/02/00 +0100, DL1SAN wrote: >I thought about an symetrical antenna for LF. The antenna could be an >inverted V arrangement with a length of 2 X150 m. A practicable hight is >about 20m for the feeding point. Has anyone experience with this kind of >antenna? What is the difference to a marconi system or a top loaded >vertical? >May be this is a stupide question. Even so.... Main difference is that a marconi antenna (with or without toploading) has vertical polarisation while a short horizontal dipole (300m = 0.14 wavelengths) will be horizontal polarized. In all LF handbooks you find that a horizontal polarized antenna is rather useless because : 1. you will have no surface wave (as you need a vertical polarized signal for that). 2. for horizontal polarized antennas at very low height (20m = 0.009 wavelengths) the signal will be 'canceled out' by reflections at the ground (or by the 'mirror antenna' that is at 20m below the ground and is in counterphase with the real antenna) But this last may only be partially true as ground is far from perfect at most 'amateur locations'. The only way to find out wether it works or not is to try it. 73, Rik ON7YD