Return-Path: Received: (qmail 23274 invoked from network); 11 Feb 2000 17:10:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by redlabel.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 11 Feb 2000 17:10:09 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12JJQM-0002Tm-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:00:06 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12JJQF-0002TG-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 16:59:59 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id RAA126992 for ; Fri, 11 Feb 2000 17:59:50 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.20000211185737.4697b3a6@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Fri, 11 Feb 2000 18:57:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: ERP and field strength again In-reply-to: <24544.200002111554@gemini> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 15:54 11/02/00 +0000, M0BMU wrote: <... >I have revised my estimates of the radiation resistance of my >antenna, using EZNEC. If zero losses and a perfect ground are >assumed, EZNEC gives a value for the radiation resistance of the >antenna as 19 milliohms, as against the original estimate of >21milliohms, for my 8.1m high antenna. I also tried estimating the > >... >Using this new value, and 1.4 A antenna current, radiated power >comes to 33mW, and ERP is 60mW. The expected field strength at >4.2km is 408uV/m, against the measured value of 195uV/m. The >discrepancy is reduced a bit, from 7.8 to 6.4dB. >... Hello Jim, Whatever your ERP, is you have a good signal in the centre of Belgium. It proves that with a modest TX and antenna you might not be 'the king of the mountain' but you can work a lot of stations. Regarding the ERP maesurements : you are using a magnetic antenna to measure the ERP of an electric antenna, so as long as you are not 100% in the far field it is quite normal that what you measure is lower than expected. At 136kHz a distance of 4.2km is less than 2 wavelengths, maybe a bit too less to have a proper far field. I remind that in an article about medium wave antennas (600kHz range) the minimum distance to measure ERP was set at 1 mile from the antenna (so about 3.2 wavelengths), converted to 136kHz this would mean 7km. It would be very interesting to find a reliable (and not too difficult way) to measure ERP as this is the only way to know wether we stay within the legal 1W ERP limit. 73, Rik ON7YD