Return-Path: Received: (qmail 26084 invoked from network); 27 Feb 2000 00:17:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by redlabel.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 27 Feb 2000 00:17:44 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12OrHS-0005yc-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:09:50 +0000 Received: from tantalum.btinternet.com ([194.73.73.80]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12OrHR-0005yX-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:09:49 +0000 Received: from [213.1.151.87] (helo=default) by tantalum.btinternet.com with smtp (Exim 2.05 #1) id 12OrH5-0007XA-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:09:30 +0000 Message-ID: <001701bf80b6$2cbf4900$579701d5@default> From: "Alan Melia" To: "rsgb_lf_group" Subject: LF: Low loss inductors ... tnx Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2000 00:04:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hi thanks Andy and Dick. I couldn't believe that coax would be a dummy load at 136k either but although there is a formula for the Q of the 'inductance' formed by the shorted line I could not think of a way of deriving one of the terms....actually what current IS flowing in the conductors. Andy's figures make a lot of sense and it just goes to confirm the old adage " you don't get owt fer nowt". OK I must plead stubby geriatric fingers for the extra order, I was probably mentally slowing light down to my speed! Certainly the reactance changes very rapidly with frequency, and I suspect this was why only a part of the loading uses the shorted stub in the Wireless World article ( there being lumped inductors shown as well). Ah well I can put my old UR67 to better uses and the neighbours can sleep peacefully as I don't need install an old 'grid' pylon to support the loading inductor. Some idiot has got to keep asking the silly questions!! 73 de Alan G3NYK