Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20287 invoked from network); 25 Jan 2000 08:55:56 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 25 Jan 2000 08:55:56 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12D1YO-00042v-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:24 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from tele-post-20.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.20]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12D1YN-00042o-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:23 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from dennison.demon.co.uk ([194.222.239.33]) by tele-post-20.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 12D1YI-000HIq-0K for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:42:18 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 08:40:53 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Mike Dennison" Subject: Re: LF: Narrow Bandwidth reception In-reply-to: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: >I would like to know other users experiences using the Spectrogram programs. >I have frequently found that I am only able to detect the weakest stations >using a sample rate of 5.5k with a FFT size of 16384. This gives an >on-screen bandwidth of 86 Hz. If I attempt to see more of the band, either >by increasing the sample rate, or decreasing the FFT size, I am unable to >detect the signal that I know is there. This seems fairly obvious, in that >decreasing bandwidth should improve signal to noise, but I wonder if all >users have the same results? >73 de Graham B. Phillips. G3XTZ. This is exactly my experience which, as you say, is what theory suggests. I am sometimes surprised to see spectrograms with wider bandwidths (though I understand some people have computer problems with the higher sample rate). Another very important control is the averaging which must be set to the highest that will allow you to see dots properly - note that this will vary with dot length. Spectrogram 5.09 calls this Spectrum Average and is best set at just above the dot length (I set it at 4). Earlier versions needed a much bigger figure - say 10 times the dot length. This makes a huge difference to the S/N and especially the rejection of burst interference such as QRN. Note that if this control is set correctly, the full advantages of the ON7YD VCW system are realised because the dots can be longer for the same duration of message. -- Mike, G3XDV IO91VT http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm