Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27644 invoked from network); 9 Jan 2000 10:06:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by teachers.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 9 Jan 2000 10:06:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 127F73-0007Er-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2000 09:58:17 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net ([194.217.242.88]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 127F72-0007Em-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Jan 2000 09:58:17 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from dennison.demon.co.uk ([194.222.239.33]) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 127F6x-000Fln-0U for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:58:13 +0000 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2000 09:57:26 +0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Mike Dennison" Subject: Re: LF: LF antenna In-reply-to: <3877D9E6.2488@xtra.co.nz> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Version 3.03a Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: ZL2CA wrote: >The practical disadvantages of an elevated loading coil are mechanical >support needed, and it surviving high voltages on transmit, during wet >or humid weather. I am not a supporter of using ferrite cores in >loading coils, as it could become nonlinear under transmit current. >High Q air cored coils for LF loading are rather large, and heavy, hence >the practicality of using them at the bottom of the up wire ... > Agreed. The arrangement I use is about 80 turns of enamelled wire on a 3 litre cola bottle. This is quite light. It could easily go at the top of a 'T', though its effective 'weight' would be increased whenever the wind blew. I mount mine on top of the pole supporting the vertical part of an 'L' (see my web site for pics and diagram). The construction of the coil takes some ingenuity. First you need to make it solid as in its natural state the bottle is too floppy to wind the wire on. This is achieved by removing the lid and putting the empty bottle in a freezer for an hour or so. The take it out and screw the lid on. The air inside expands within a few minutes and the bottle becomes very hard (thanks to Rik for this idea). Then, with the aid of some plastic tape, wind as many turns as you can get on the coil. Completely cover it with plastic tape when finished - this lasts about a year in the sun and rain and shows no sign of insulation breakdown (it also looks much less silly than having a cola bottle on top of the mast!). The taped coil is now solid enough to let the air out of the bottle. I have two other refinements: To reduce the wind resistance, I taped the 'top half' of a second bottle to the blunt end of the coil former. This not only makes it more streamlined but makes it look less like a bottle! And I mounted it on top of my mast by running a plastic pipe through the bottle (through each of the bottle 'tops'). If this sounds confusing, look at the web pics. Certainly, it can be argued that this type of coil is not optimum as it inevitably involves compromises, but it does work. I would like to try increasing the inductance with ferrite which would probably give a good inductance to weight ratio, but getting the right ferrite is not easy. -- Mike, G3XDV IO91VT http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm