Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6256 invoked from network); 28 Jan 2000 10:35:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by dimple.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 28 Jan 2000 10:35:57 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12E8cy-0006ym-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:27:44 +0000 Received: from mail1.isys.net ([193.96.224.45]) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 12E8cx-0006yh-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 10:27:43 +0000 Received: from a [195.64.97.116] by mail1.isys.net with esmtp (Exim 1.73 #1) id 12E8kh-0004Ru-00; Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:35:43 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal From: "Klaus von der Heide" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2000 11:28:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: Transatlantic In-reply-to: <4.2.0.58.20000125142631.00966560@mailhost.pncl.co.uk> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12b) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello LF-Friends, the negative result of the recent transatlantic experiment only says that the usual ham methods for LF contacts are not adequate for a transatlantic distance. A weak signal never excludes information transmission, it only reduces the information bit rate. Why not try, as a first step, to get one single bit over the ocean? The communication theory says that BPSK is optimum, and a bandwidth considerably larger than the information bit rate is better than a small one. I therefore, propose the following experiment: 1. Both, transmitter and receiver, must be synchronized to an atomic clock, i.e. all oscillators that determine the carrier or the symbol rate. Especially the sampling frequency of a DSP (not the processor clock) must be synchronized. A soundcard normally cannot. 2. The symbol rate is exactly 1 bit/s. Starting every minute, a constant random pattern of 60 bits is sent out. Appropriate matched filters must be used at both ends. 3. At the receiving end, a DSP adds the 60 new values to 60 accumulators. 4. The contents of the accumulators is correlated with the known random bit pattern. After many hours or days (or years?) the correlation must become significant. 5. It is important to suppress the non-Gaussian noise as good as possible before the data are accumulated. As I mentioned some weeks ago, phased array antennas at both ends would increase the signal by many dBs. There isn't any dought that hams can cross information over the atlantic. The minimum information of a ham QSO is 50 bits in either direction. The open questions only is: Is the possible information bit rate 1 bit per day or is it 1 bit per 5 minutes or in other words: can a QSO run within 10 hours or can it definitely not. 73 de Klaus, DJ5HG