Return-Path: Received: (qmail 6351 invoked from network); 22 Dec 1999 17:04:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by bells.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 22 Dec 1999 17:04:20 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 120pTh-0000nu-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:23:09 +0000 Received: from mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk ([194.200.20.13]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 120pTa-0000no-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 17:23:02 +0000 Received: from userat86.netscapeonline.co.uk ([62.125.135.190] helo=netscapeonline.co.uk) by mailhost.netscapeonline.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 120oyM-0002cw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:50:47 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <3860FE96.B75A44DF@netscapeonline.co.uk> Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 16:38:46 +0000 From: "malcolmg3kev" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Organization: Netscape Online member X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en-gb]C-CCK-MCD NetscapeOnline.co.uk (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: qrss References: <199912201532_MC2-91D7-FE0A@compuserve.com> <3.0.1.16.19991222105501.2edf4262@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Rik Strobbe wrote: > At 18:48 21/12/99 +0000, G3KEV wrote: > >Hi Geri. Qrss is discouraging experimenters from improving their antennas, > >receivers and associated equipment to make a normal aural qso. It is also > >encouraging nodding off (sleeping) during the hours that it takes to get a > MMM. > >OOO, OXO etc > >I hope the lazy mans cw will not prevail above 20 khz !!! > > Hello Mal, > > I am very sorry but I do not understand the reason of your anti-QRSS (or > DFCW) campaign > How can a debate or point of view be seen as being an ANTI CAMPAIN. This > medium is exactly for that purpose to debate and discuss for instance the > merits of different MODES of communication. I am neither for or against QRSS > or any other mode but condider that I am entitled to make an observation > about a mode on a band that I use. 73 de MAL/G3KEV > > First of all using exteme narrowband modes is only one way of improving the > distance you can cover, next to improving antenna and equipement. So it > will nit stop experimenters from trying to improve anything. > Also you are overestimating the duration of a QRSS QSO, it can be done in > about 30 minutes. Using DFCW, a standard QSO needs only about 10 minutes, > to be honest I have heard a lot of "normal CW" QSO's on 136kHz where due to > poor S/N the calls, reports etc. had to be repeated over and over again > resulting in a QSO duration far longer than 10 minutes. In these cases the > use of DFCW might even had speed up things. > Finally, nobody is forced to use QRSS and/or DFCW. Those who are happy with > normal CW only can do so. But those who want to experiment with new modes > should not be treated as a kind of second class hams, calling QRSS 'lazy > mans CW' is just not fair. > > Merry Christmas and happy New Year to all readers of this reflector. > > 73, Rik