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Date: Thu, 16 Dec 1999 22:17:32 +0100
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Yes , the "French Connection" looks tricky. I must admit that the person
to who I talked on the phone said: "I thought that everybody was already
QRV on 136"... If you see what I mean, we could be able to transmit on
these frequencies, but with the risk of being fined (there are several
control sites in France, and no, you can't say that you've eaten a
cornish pie at lunch on 80 metres)...

73, Mark, F6JSZ

malcolmg3kev a *crit :
> 
> Hi Petr. I had a similar experience in Canada. I phoned the Telecoms Dept in
> Vancouver and asked what the procedure was for getting a recipocal licence. The
> Inspector said JUST go ahead and transmit. When I enquired about a visit to the
> Telecoms Office to confirm my valid G3KEV and VS6HI licence, he said it was not
> necessary hi - JUST GO AHEAD AND TRANSMIT ETC . I did what he said and never had
> a problem hi. In contrast to get a Singapore licence you had to be sworn in by a
> Magistrate and take an oath of allegiance to the Singapore Government besides
> having the appropriate qualifications, over the border in Malaya is was totally
> relaxed and no formalities were required except to have the qualifications. The
> French connection looks tricky.
> 73 de Mal/G3KEV/9V1OY/9M2CC
> 
> Petr Maly wrote:
> 
> > Hello Lowfers
> > Nice story, isn't it. I can tell my own. In spring this year I called to CTU
> > (PTT) to get permission for transmitting on 136 kHz. The YL on the other
> > side told me that she is very, very busy and that I would have best to call
> > again in autumn. But I did not give up and I called her again and again. At
> > last, to get rid of me, she said something like: "OK then, transmit there
> > and don't bother me any longer". That's all my permission. I have nothing
> > written in my hand till now. I even don't know till now what one must comply
> > with to get permission in OK. No one knows. Maybe, my transmission is
> > illegal and all my "firsts" will be cancelled. Who knows...
> >
> > 73, Petr, OK1FIG
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: M & S <sovergne@club-internet.fr>
> > To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 16, 1999 3:58 PM
> > Subject: LF: French update
> >
> > > Hello all,
> > >
> > > I've just had a long conversation with the guy who's responsible for the
> > > Amateur Service here in France, at the ministry of telecommunications.
> > >
> > > The situation is more complicated than I previously announced. In fact,
> > > the ART (French equivelant of OFTEL) has made several demands towards
> > > the Agence Nationale des Frequences (French equivalent of the RA)
> > > regarding the use of the 136 kHz band in France by amateurs.
> > >
> > > I phoned the ANF, and nobody there seemed to know what I was talking
> > about!
> > >
> > > Well, I'm one of those "bad" journalists who never give up: I gave a
> > > call to the ministry. The minister didn't want to speak to me so they
> > > connected me to the press service. Again, nobody was able to understand
> > > a word about what I was talking about (are we lowfers so bizarre?).
> > >
> > > Finally, after five phone calls, around eight or nine different
> > > services, fifteen or so different people and twenty-five times
> > > explaining the same thing, I managed to get a short piece of information
> > > from an official source.
> > >
> > > Read this: "the 136 kHz band will definately be allocated to the amateur
> > > service in France. I'm surprised that so many european countries are
> > > already active. However, our request has been published. All we need now
> > > is a signature from the Prime Minister. He does have the papers on his
> > > desk since a couple of months. The question is, how many papers have
> > > been loaded on top of the 136 kHz file..."
> > >
> > > So, 136 in France can be authorised tomorrow, like it can be authorised
> > > in December 2000. However, we're quite sure right now that it will be
> > > authorised whatsoever.
> > >
> > > Wait and see.
> > >
> > > 73, Mark, F6JSZ
> > > Editor, French CQ
> > >