Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20185 invoked from network); 22 Dec 1999 09:03:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by grants.core.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 22 Dec 1999 09:03:25 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 120i4P-0006oY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:28:33 +0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be ([134.58.10.6]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 120i4N-0006oT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:28:31 +0000 Received: from LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be (LCBD15.fys.kuleuven.ac.be [134.58.80.15]) by mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be (8.9.3/8.9.0) with SMTP id JAA61036 for ; Wed, 22 Dec 1999 09:56:15 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Message-ID: <3.0.1.16.19991222105501.2edf4262@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> X-Sender: pb623250@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.1 (16) Date: Wed, 22 Dec 1999 10:55:01 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Rik Strobbe" Subject: Re: LF: qrss In-reply-to: <385FCB8C.D5F2F511@netscapeonline.co.uk> References: <199912201532_MC2-91D7-FE0A@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: At 18:48 21/12/99 +0000, G3KEV wrote: >Hi Geri. Qrss is discouraging experimenters from improving their antennas, >receivers and associated equipment to make a normal aural qso. It is also >encouraging nodding off (sleeping) during the hours that it takes to get a MMM. >OOO, OXO etc >I hope the lazy mans cw will not prevail above 20 khz !!! Hello Mal, I am very sorry but I do not understand the reason of your anti-QRSS (or DFCW) campaign. First of all using exteme narrowband modes is only one way of improving the distance you can cover, next to improving antenna and equipement. So it will nit stop experimenters from trying to improve anything. Also you are overestimating the duration of a QRSS QSO, it can be done in about 30 minutes. Using DFCW, a standard QSO needs only about 10 minutes, to be honest I have heard a lot of "normal CW" QSO's on 136kHz where due to poor S/N the calls, reports etc. had to be repeated over and over again resulting in a QSO duration far longer than 10 minutes. In these cases the use of DFCW might even had speed up things. Finally, nobody is forced to use QRSS and/or DFCW. Those who are happy with normal CW only can do so. But those who want to experiment with new modes should not be treated as a kind of second class hams, calling QRSS 'lazy mans CW' is just not fair. Merry Christmas and happy New Year to all readers of this reflector. 73, Rik