Return-Path: Received: (qmail 28281 invoked from network); 11 Nov 1999 10:44:52 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 1999 10:44:52 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11lrMc-00055v-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:58 +0000 Received: from mserv1c.u-net.net ([195.102.240.33]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11lrMa-00055p-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:21:56 +0000 Received: from rsgb.u-net.com ([195.102.80.225] helo=rsgb.org.uk) by mserv1c.u-net.net with esmtp (Exim 2.10 #35) id 11lrLZ-0002Ri-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:20:53 +0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from miked by rsgb.org.uk with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.5.0.R) for ; Thu, 11 Nov 1999 10:02:42 +0000 From: mike.dennison@rsgb.org.uk To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Thu, 11 Nov 1999 09:47:24 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: LF: Nighttime propagation In-reply-to: <0.22daf46f.255303b0@aol.com> X-Mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Return-Path: miked@mail.rsgbhq Message-ID: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: On 4 Nov 99, at 10:43, G0MRF@aol.com wrote: > Monitoring at night [in ZB2] showed an increase throughout the hours of darkness > peaking at 02.30 to 04.00. Signal levels began to drop at around 2 hours > before dawn. > > The signal level difference was around 8-10 dB in general but a peak one > morning at 03.45UTC was estimated at +12db on daytime levels and + 4dB on the > level seen between 22.00 and 00.00hrs the previous night. > > The only other anomaly of note was a single deep fade 8dB peak to trough, > which took a full 15 minutes from start to finish and occurred between 23.30 > and 23.45 one evening. Unfortunately I did not have the time or technology to > keep monitoring or recording the signal to see if this recurred on a regular > basis. > Beware of applying HF theories to this fading pattern. That's thge mistake I made when noticing an unexpected fade, rather than peak, during the eclipse. Because ground wave is present as well (not something we get at HF at any distance) any sky wave will result in =either= an enhancement or a decrease in signal. Both indicate the presence of sky-wave and are therefore potentially good news. I think this is the reason why there is often a discrepancy between what differently sited stations are hearing - often someone has reported that he received improved signals whilst someone else says they are worse. I now call CQ when DCF39 is 10dB weaker than its ground wave, as well as when it is 10dB stronger! As regards day and night differences, I receive the Greek RTTY at S9+ all night but very weak or inaudible during the day. I also noticed that when I worked IK5ZPV using QRSs just before lunch, he was inaudible, whilst at 1900UTC his normal CW was S5. Note that, although people have worked OH1TN during the UK daytime, there is very little sun to enhance the damaging D layer as far north as Finland in the winter. As has been commented before, it will be useful to start some night time DX tests (anyone who used 160m in the sixties will remember the sort of thing I mean). The important thing is to coordinate activity. I would be willing to come on the air very early in the morning (or very late at night) if there were a good chance of some DX being around. I guess that since the QSOs will all be within Europe for the moment, we need a slot between 0200 and 0300 UTC (I am already regretting suggesting it !!!). The later in the year, the later the time we can have it. Perhaps a test on the second Sunday morning in each month in November, December, January and February, lasting from 0000 to 0600UTC (so you can either stay up late or get up early). Any takers? Mike, G3XDV (IO91VT) http://www.dennison.demon.co.uk/activity.htm