Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17903 invoked from network); 15 Nov 1999 03:51:59 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 1999 03:51:59 +0000 Received: (qmail 23913 invoked from network); 15 Nov 1999 04:01:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 15 Nov 1999 04:01:49 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11nD2c-0008I2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:42:54 +0000 Received: from mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.15]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11nD2a-0008Hw-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 03:42:53 +0000 Received: from locxvcym ([210.55.83.206]) by mta4-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19991115034209.NAZJ457558.mta4-rme@locxvcym> for ; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:42:09 +1300 From: "ComPact" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: visual-CW Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 16:43:32 +1300 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Priority: 3 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet Mail 4.70.1161 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <19991115034209.NAZJ457558.mta4-rme@locxvcym> Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Rik you wrote: >Another alternative is replacing the discrimation of dashes and dots from >the time-domain to the frequency domain. This would mean that 'dashes' and >'dots' have the same length (3 seconds) but that they are transmitted on >different frequencies. Since in visual-CW the frequency discrimination is >very high a shift of 5Hz (or even less) is sufficient. Using this technique >we do not need the 'time-gaps' between the dashes and dots, only between >characters we would need a 'time-gap' of 1 dot and a 2 dot 'time-gap' >between words. It seems that some similar thinking is going on on both sides of the world on this topic. We have been using for some time a combination of Spectrogram and small frquency shifts as a positive means of identifying weak trans-Tasman LF signals. Also you will have noted Steve Olney's extensive work in this area. I am a little confused about the tests you describe Rik. If you eliminate the time gaps between a string of dots then you just get a long dash so I assume you are shifting frequency after each "element" rather than one frequency for dots and another for dashes? Mike ZL4OL