Return-Path: Received: (qmail 16872 invoked from network); 15 Nov 1999 15:27:25 +0000 Received: from unknown (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 15 Nov 1999 15:27:25 +0000 Received: (qmail 3138 invoked from network); 15 Nov 1999 15:26:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 15 Nov 1999 15:26:09 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11nNnz-0006y2-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:12:31 +0000 Received: from [206.67.58.119] (helo=radiometrix.co.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11nNny-0006xx-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:12:30 +0000 Received: from default [62.188.136.30] by radiometrix.co.uk with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.05) id A28B4A90100; Mon, 15 Nov 1999 10:11:07 -0500 Message-ID: <004601bf2f7b$c8c99440$4589bc3e@default> From: "Kevin Ravenhill" To: "RSGB LF Group" References: Subject: Re: LF: Simple receivers for 136kHz Date: Mon, 15 Nov 1999 15:10:32 -0000 Organization: Radiometrix Ltd. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Mike, G3XDV wrote: > I could hear DCF39 at S9+ and > copied MM0ALM (650km) loud and clear. To a beginner this might > indicate that all was well. But what I could not hear was the Greek > RTTY which was S7 on the converter, the Loran or any static. The > difference was remarkable. > > As I have said before, if you don't get a HUGE signal from DCF39 > compared to your noise level, and can't hear the RTTY just below > 136kHz most of the time, and can't hear Loran and/or static all of the > time, you may need to increase the receiver system gain. This may > also involve improving front end selectivity. Quite agree Mike. I did originally try this receiver without its 1st RF preamplifier stage and the performance was very disappointing - no Loran etc. just as you describe. This despite the receiver having an apparently adequate sensitivity (<0.2uV MDS) when measured using a 50 ohm feed from a signal generator. I'll certainly be interested in your findings re. the IC706. With the additional preamp I can hear Loran loud and clear along with (almost depressing!) amounts of static. The Greek RTTY is always there, usually peaking at around S6-7 estimated (except at night when it increases markedly in strength, and particularly this last weekend when it was S9+ during the daytime). Narrow filtering fairly early on in the audio chain is absolutely essential with this receiver though, otherwise DCF39 is so strong that it completely swamps the audio stages! 73 Kevin, G1HDQ.