Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21159 invoked from network); 24 Oct 1999 14:06:10 +0100 Received: from unknown (HELO magnet.force9.net) (195.166.128.26) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 24 Oct 1999 14:06:10 +0100 Received: (qmail 8937 invoked from network); 24 Oct 1999 13:13:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnet.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 24 Oct 1999 13:13:58 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11fN5s-00031L-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:49:52 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from ds-img-4.compuserve.com ([149.174.206.137] helo=spdmgaad.compuserve.com) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11fN5r-00031E-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 13:49:51 +0100 Received: (from mailgate@localhost) by spdmgaad.compuserve.com (8.9.3/8.9.3/SUN-1.7) id IAA14709 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:49:12 -0400 (EDT) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 08:48:58 -0400 From: "Prof R. Jennison" Subject: LF: re Datong converters To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Message-ID: <199910240849_MC2-8A35-49B2@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Many thanks to Alan, G3NYK, and Bob, K3DJC, for their comments on the problem with Datong converters. In particular Alan's suggestion number 3 hit the nail on the head. Further checks with an oscilloscope have shown the offending cw components at the output of the converter (and also at a lower level at the input). Furthermore, tuning the main receiver over the whole spectrum with the converter in the antenna socket has now shown that there is a harmonic set of these powerful cw components precisely in agreement with Alan's suggestion that it could be associated with the use of a third harmonic overtone crystal. The signals from one of my two converters are listed below (the other Datong converter has a similar set differing by a few kHz). All of the signals listed are at strength 40dB over S9 on the S meter, each is accompanied by a related set of somewhat weeker modulation harmonics to either side: 9.309 MHz and 9.345 MHz; 18.654 MHz and 18.690 MHz; 28.072 MHz and 28.360 MHz. It is the 28.072 harmonic that severely affects my reception on the 73 kHz band but my other converter has a higher harmonic very close to the 137 band, so it may be adviseable for all our colleagues using these converters to check where their harmonics lie. I have not yet found a solution to the problem but it may be possible to shift any offending harmonic sufficiently clear of the ham bands. I will copy this email on FAX to Dave Tong and I hope that we may then get an official solution. 73, Roger, G2AJV.