Return-Path: Received: (qmail 2957 invoked from network); 18 Sep 1999 22:01:06 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 18 Sep 1999 22:01:06 +0100 Received: (qmail 12635 invoked from network); 18 Sep 1999 20:59:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 18 Sep 1999 20:59:09 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11SRSq-0005mA-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:52:08 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.3]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11SRSp-0005m3-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 21:52:08 +0100 Received: from [203.96.101.211] by mta2-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990918205505.JMFU685.mta2-rme@[203.96.101.211]> for ; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 08:55:05 +1200 Message-ID: <37E3F920.73E4@xtra.co.nz> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 08:42:08 +1200 From: "vernall" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-XTRA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: LF-antennas with top load 3 References: <001301bf01fb$d4224ce0$d796b38f@w8k3f0> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Thanks to Dick PA0SE for modelling a range of antenna configurations. Comments are made on excerpts: > In this (the last I hope for you ...) report you find the results of > computer simulation of a coil between the top end of the vertical > radiator and the top load wires. ..... > For practical reasons a top load coil has to be of limited size. I > have modelled coils of 500, 1000 and 2000 microhenry. > > In order to present a more useful picture I also included a > loading/tuning coil at the bottom end of the radiator. The coil has > been chosen so that it resonates the system. The Q of both coils has > been set at 300. ..... > Conclusion: A top coil does not increase efficiency for the > configurations modelled. This is also a conclusion that would have been made by commercial nondirectional beacon (NDB) users as there are no loading coils "up in the air" that I am aware of (but there are resistors inserted in some cases, to lower Q). In the amateur case, the quest is for maximised efficiency for a given QTH and practical antenna mounts, so inserting resistors in the antenna is not on the agenda. It is likely that a higher Q coil could be made for use "on the ground" than for use "up in the air" (mechanical reasons, and electrical weatherproofing against arcing over). So using Dick's conclusion (for equal Q), there is arguably a net conclusion in favour of base loading (could have higher Q). The ONLY reason I am aware of where centre loading could actually be beneficial on LF for amateur type of installations is for the USA situation where they have a prescriptive regulation that says that LowFers in the band 165 - 190 kHz can have no more than 50 feet of antenna, from the transmitter output. Being bound by such formulated limits, a pure vertical with centre loading coil is about the best that can be squeezed out in terms of efficiency, with the transmitter at the base of the antenna. Thankfully there are other countries that do not place physical size limits on amateur antennas, or feeder lengths, so the benefits of capacitive top loading can be reasonably exploited. An e.i.r.p. limit on radiated power is considered to be a far better way of capping amateur radiated power, to allow for free experimentation and a lot of fun to be had in warming up the ground :) Bob ZL2CA