Return-Path: Received: (qmail 8110 invoked from network); 16 Sep 1999 18:42:45 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 16 Sep 1999 18:42:45 +0100 Received: (qmail 21724 invoked from network); 16 Sep 1999 17:40:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 16 Sep 1999 17:40:37 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11Rf6e-0007ZI-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:14:00 +0100 Received: from nms.rz.uni-kiel.de ([134.245.1.2]) by post.thorcom.com with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11Rf6c-0007ZD-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:13:59 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from srv1.mail.uni-kiel.de by nms.rz.uni-kiel.de with Local-SMTP (PP); Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:13:09 +0200 Received: from nephro.uni-kiel.de (PC10852.dial.uni-kiel.de [134.245.108.52]) by srv1.mail.uni-kiel.de (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26183 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:13:26 +0200 (MET DST) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <37E1250D.69B2AD45@nephro.uni-kiel.de> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:12:45 +0200 From: "Peter W. Schnoor" Organization: University of Kiel, Clinic of Nephrology X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.33 i586) To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: LF-antenna with top load References: <000d01beff9e$9ff064c0$3596b38f@w8k3f0> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Hello Group, Hi Dick, Question to PA0SE: Dick, did you choose 1.5mm of diameter or radius? Some programs are using "radius" other "diameter"... Here are the results from simulations with MININEC algorithms. Ground: 0.005 S/m, 13 (dielectric const.) Diameter of all wires: 1.5 mm (copper and 0 for Rs) Max error of wire lengths: <1% Length of vertical section: 10m Lengths of segments: 1m ("pulses" for specialists...) I'm including the maximum gain as the program reports at "x-direction" (g in dBi) and some of Dick's results for comparison (">..."). > 1. No top load > Z = 0.073 - j 17792 (ohm) z = 0.0824 - j17761 g = -6.6 dB > Rs: 7.8 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0079 Ohms > 2. One horizontal top load wire of 5 m > Z = 0.111 - j 12550 z = 0.1244 - j12533 g =-6.0 dB > Rs: 13.9 milli-ohm Rs = 0.00138 Ohms > 3. One top loading wire of 5 m, sloping down under 45 degrees > Z = 0.108 - j 12993 z = 0.1195 - j12945 g = -6.7 dB > Rs: 11.2 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0111 Ohms > 4. One horizontal top loading wire of 10 m > Z = 0.148 - j 9659 z = 0.1663 - j9645 g = -6.1 dB > Rs: 17.6 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0176 Ohms > 5. One top loading wire of 10 m, sloping down under 45 degrees > Z = 0.142 - j 9898 z = 0.1584 - j9896 g = -8.3 dB > Rs: 9.94 milli-ohm Rs = 0.01 Ohms > 6. One horizontal top loading wire of 20 m > Z = 0.221 - j 6626 z = 0.2479 - j6602 g = -6.7 > Rs: 22.1 milli-ohm Rs = 0.022 Ohms > 7. Two horizontal top loading wires of 5 m (T-antenna) > Z = 0.133 - j 9914 z = 0.1491 - j9903 g = -5.7 > Rs: 17.4 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0174 Ohms > 8. Two top loading wires of 5 m, sloping down under 45 degrees > Z = 0.127 - j 10466 z = 0.1420 - j10430 g = -6.8 > Rs: 13.2 milli-ohm Rs = 0.013 Ohms > 9. Two horizontal top loading wires of 10 m (T-antenna) > Z = 0.173 - 6793 z = 0.1948 - j6786 g = -5.9 > Rs: 22.0 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0219 Ohms > 10. Two top loading wires of 10 m, sloping down under 45 degrees > Z = 0.163 - j 6987 z = 0.1843 - j7027 g = -8.8 > Rs: 10.6 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0107 Ohms > 11. Two horizontal top loading wires of 20 m (T-antenna) > Z = 0.230 - j 4142 z = 0.2593 - j4138 g = -6.4 > Rs: 26.0 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0261 Ohms > 12. Four horizontal top loading wires of 5 m (90 degrees between wires in horizontal plane) > Z = 0.156 - j 7394 z = 0.1748 - j7386 g = -5.6 > Rs: 21.4 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0212 Ohms > 13. Four top loading wires of 5 m, sloping down under 45 degrees > Z = 0.147 - j 7948 z = 0.1654 - j7985 g = -6.9 > Rs: 14.9 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0148 Ohms > 14. Four horizontal top loading wires of 10 m > Z = 0.193 - j 4529 z = 0.2165 - j4524 g = -5.7 > Rs: 25.9 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0257 Ohms > 15. Four top loading wires of 10 m, sloping down under 45 degrees > Z = 0.180 - j 4689 z = 0.2035 -j4726 g = -9.1 > Rs: 10.8 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0109 Ohms > 16. Four horizontal toploading wires of 20 m (T-antenna) > Z = 0.232 - j 2493 z = 0.2613 - j2492 g = -6 > Rs: 29 milli-ohm Rs = 0.0289 Ohms O.K. Lots of numbers... 54°16'N / 10°04'E, JO54ag 73 es gl de Peter, DF3LP