Return-Path: Received: (qmail 7333 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 06:03:23 -0000 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by murphys.force9.net with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 06:03:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 7901 invoked from network); 28 Aug 1999 06:01:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 28 Aug 1999 06:01:15 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11KbSW-0002SH-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:55:24 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz ([203.96.92.1]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11KbSV-0002SC-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 06:55:23 +0100 Received: from [203.96.101.208] by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <19990828055921.OOIU3442178.mta1-rme@[203.96.101.208]> for ; Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:59:21 +1200 Message-ID: <37C777F5.3441@xtra.co.nz> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Date: Sat, 28 Aug 1999 17:47:34 +1200 From: "vernall" X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01C-XTRA (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: Multiple Tuned Vertical : simple calculations References: <3.0.1.16.19990827143645.268f4bda@mail.cc.kuleuven.ac.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Rik Strobbe wrote: > But what to do with the 'loss resistance' (RL) in the real world ? > Assume a simple model where both tuned sections share the same > ground-system. In that case RL would be in series with R and this would > mean that a double tuned vertical would not only quadruple the radiation > resistance but also the loss resistance, resulting in an unchanged ratio > between radiation resistance and loss resistance. Which is basically what I meant in my previous comments about "transformer action" from the division of current between multiple tuned vertical feeds. It is similar to a folded dipole transformation. Overall, multiple tuned verticals are still a similar antenna structure from the point of view of "looking back at it from some distance away". Multiple tuned vertical parts are an "impedance transformation trick" but do very little, if anything, for the net radiation resistance of the whole antenna. Where some advantages are likely is in the multiple grounds. Bob ZL2CA