Return-Path: Received: (qmail 20786 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 08:36:27 +0100 Received: from magnus.plus.net.uk (HELO magnus.force9.net) (195.166.128.27) by guiness.force9.net with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 08:36:27 +0100 Received: (qmail 17084 invoked from network); 2 Aug 1999 07:39:17 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by magnus.plus.net.uk with SMTP; 2 Aug 1999 07:39:17 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11BCPj-00071G-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 08:21:39 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from bw85zhb.bluewin.ch ([195.186.1.75]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11BCPg-00071A-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 02 Aug 1999 08:21:37 +0100 Received: from phonakcom.ch ([195.186.13.116]) by bw85zhb.bluewin.ch ( with ESMTP id AAA49B9 for ; Mon, 2 Aug 1999 09:21:23 +0200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <37A546F4.7A2B4941@phonakcom.ch> Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 09:21:24 +0200 From: "Toni Bdrtschi" Organization: Phonak Communications AG X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [de] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Mystery VLF signals in Italy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sender: >From HB9ASB, JN36pt I've never seen a response to Marcos query about the signal on 1025 Hz. Here a possible explanation: Of course I can see and hear the signal, like many others in the VLF/ULF range, at my QTH. They are coming over the mains but I can receive them also fro the air with my 136 kHz aerial and detect them with my receiver and the soundcard and spectrogram. The sources - at least here in Switzerland - are well known. The signals are generated by our power stations and feed into the mains to control street lamps, electricity counters in the households (different day/night charges for the kWh) and other devices. Here they are using thyristor or motor-generators with 60kw/22kV connected via a serial LC to the medium voltage grid. The rectangular pulses with 600ms intervals are coming in packets with 6 bits (including a startbit) Different frequencies from 200Hz to 2kHz are in use. The durations of these control signal emissions are normally between 10s and 100s and the time depends on the local Power Company. The system exists since 1950 and is known under RSS (Rundsteuersignale). The signal which switches my day/night charge at 21:00 UT and 05:00 UT is so strong that I can hear it trough the loudspeaker of some old radio receivers (especially tube type, produced before 1950) or even directly out of some transformers! May be, this is an explanation for the mystery signal in Italy on 1025 Hz. 73 de Toni